LOVE TO TRAVEL....BUT NOT WITH TEACHERS


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technokat is offline technokat Post #11  August 21,2008, 9:41am
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Haha! Don't worry about the typo. I figured it out. And thank you for your response. I do get incensed when the old "teachers get summer VACATION" shows up in the atmosphere as just about every teaching situation I've ever encountered (my father was a teacher before me) consisted of summer UNemployment. I have suffered with so little on my own the past few summers that it has been a point of stress in my life that often affects my health. I have to be frugal in August because I do with less. Yet this is the only time I can enjoy some free time to rejuvenate. Oh, the irony.

I have always been interested in advocating for the profession. The problem I face is...well...I just don't have the time outside of my regular schedule to get too involved. I am a union rep for one of my buildings, a job that is time-consuming for someone in two schools and teaching 5 grade levels. I take all issues affecting schools very seriously, but I do not have a lot of time to work on advocacy for huge change.

I do support those with the talent and the wherewithal to affect change. And I certainly do applaud you for your efforts. There are many in the private sector who would begrudge us of everything we fight for citing that they do without, so we should as well. They do not do without the salaries that make the average teacher salivate. They do not do without the perks that would make us wonder why we do our jobs some days. But we do these jobs because we love them, and we are the people who feel we can make a difference "in the trenches."

I would be interested in learning how many other school districts pay teachers for summers when they are not working. I'm sure you can get your hands on the research given your field of study. I'll PM you with thanks in advance.
 
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honey28 is offline honey28 Post #12  August 22,2008, 12:10am

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Haha! Don't worry about the typo. I figured it out. And thank you for your response. I do get incensed when the old "teachers get summer VACATION" shows up in the atmosphere as just about every teaching situation I've ever encountered (my father was a teacher before me) consisted of summer UNemployment. I have suffered with so little on my own the past few summers that it has been a point of stress in my life that often affects my health. I have to be frugal in August because I do with less. Yet this is the only time I can enjoy some free time to rejuvenate. Oh, the irony.

I have always been interested in advocating for the profession. The problem I face is...well...I just don't have the time outside of my regular schedule to get too involved. I am a union rep for one of my buildings, a job that is time-consuming for someone in two schools and teaching 5 grade levels. I take all issues affecting schools very seriously, but I do not have a lot of time to work on advocacy for huge change.

I do support those with the talent and the wherewithal to affect change. And I certainly do applaud you for your efforts. There are many in the private sector who would begrudge us of everything we fight for citing that they do without, so we should as well. They do not do without the salaries that make the average teacher salivate. They do not do without the perks that would make us wonder why we do our jobs some days. But we do these jobs because we love them, and we are the people who feel we can make a difference "in the trenches."

I would be interested in learning how many other school districts pay teachers for summers when they are not working. I'm sure you can get your hands on the research given your field of study. I'll PM you with thanks in advance.
Be sure to PM me ..and if I know what state you teach in, I can also try to send you some sites that will help you make extra money tutoring, or I can give you some tips on how to start your own part-time or full-time tutoring or summer camp business. Weteachers have to stick together, right?


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i used to be at school until 7pm, every night (teaching kindergarten in watts), but finally woke up to what it was doing to my health and my 9-year-old daughter's well-being. i took "substitute leave of absence," and am never going back! it's like being a grandparent--you get to do the fun part, leave planning, assessments, and "professional development" to the register-carrying teachers.


of course, this left me with a financial deficit, but i found something that more than fills in the gaps, which is network marketing with a reputable company that distributes a phenomenal wellness product that changes people's lives. now i have the flexibility to take time off when i wish to, and travel regularly with my daughter.--and i still get to teach, only now it's fun.
 
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I think it's more like they have ample free time but not ample funding.
 
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Spider is offline Spider Post #15  January 11,2009, 4:30pm
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I'm 70 and love to travel. A very high percent of my matches by EH are teachers. All say they want to travel, however, they also say they love their job, the kid interaction, and where they are employed. Most are still of working age. Teachers work many hours, have few days in a row off, and they usually state that they have read great books on travel, but have never traveled extensively. However......they want to travel.


I finally had to tell EH to quit matching me with teachers. I suppose, if the matched teacher was already retired, it might work. I have never seen a group of people who, state they love to travel and want to travel, but their job always interferes with them doing so. For me, I've found teachers extremely time limited, and a waist of my time.


Any comments on similar problems with teachers???
Steven - As you have discovered, teachers make a commitment to their employers, and are rarely eager to take time off. In an office job, a coworker can take up some of the slack when you take a day or two off, or the work might be able to wait on your desk for your return. For teachers, howver, that's not the case. A substitute teacher must be paid for every day the regular teacher is out.





You can imagine that a teacher who takes off numerous personal days is not going to be regarded with much affection by the payroll department. Students lose the continuity of any ongoing lessons when the teacher is out, as well. And the teacher, if planning a few days away, must not only plan substitute-proof lesson plans, but anticipate coming back to a desk covered with papers to be graded.





I'm only allowed 10 personal days per year. I try to use them wisely, for only necessary absences. If I ever go over the ten days, not only do I not get paid for subsequent days missed, but I am expected to cover substitute expenses.





So there are definite financial considerations for teachers who want to travel during the school year.
 
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Yasmine is offline Yasmine Post #16  January 11,2009, 5:01pm
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I'm 70 and love to travel. A very high percent of my matches by EH are teachers. All say they want to travel, however, they also say they love their job, the kid interaction, and where they are employed. Most are still of working age. Teachers work many hours, have few days in a row off, and they usually state that they have read great books on travel, but have never traveled extensively. However......they want to travel.


I finally had to tell EH to quit matching me with teachers. I suppose, if the matched teacher was already retired, it might work. I have never seen a group of people who, state they love to travel and want to travel, but their job always interferes with them doing so. For me, I've found teachers extremely time limited, and a waist of my time.


Any comments on similar problems with teachers???
I agree with you on the "want to travel but havent". I am an educator and I went to Europe three times last year (paid by me, not by schools or by chaperoning). It is true, many dream and little do. I am down to two big trips left: Egypt and India. Most people just talk. Some of us do. Dont give up on teachers!!!
 
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I teach at a high school and understand the many woes of teaching. There are both pros and cons to the profession, but I have much more free time now than I did my first few years. They pay is not great, but I am extremely thrifty. I figure if you REALLY enjoy traveling and it is a priority to you then you won't splurge on clothes or other material goods. I am working on my Master's Degree to increase my pay scale and that is the only consuming factor to my funds. I have been on almost every continent and will not stop until I have been to Antarctica. Traveling is possible, but only if it is a priority. My only problem is finding people that have the time and money to come with me!!
 
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Spider is offline Spider Post #18  January 14,2009, 3:53am
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Hmm. Steven, now that I think of it, you sound like a guy I was matched with who wanted to travel at the drop of a hat, who even wanted to know if I had family/job obligations that would take priority over "our" relationship. This guy wanted to come first at all times, with no competition from my parents, kids, educational plans, or career choices. And then he had the nerve to ask (in his first set of independent questions) "How's your libido?"





If you're that guy, or like him, maybe a lot of teachers don't want to be at someone's beck and call. As others have pointed out, teachers do have frequent weeklong or more breaks, but maybe your requirements are excessive, and their career doesn't have that much to do with them closing the match.
 
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Lili_bham is offline Lili_bham Post #19  June 3,2009, 8:08am
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I notice that you say most of these matches are of working age - why don't you try dating someone your own age for a change? They might have more free time.
 
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singinggirl is offline singinggirl Post #20  June 6,2009, 8:55pm
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Forgive me, but what teachers get paid summer time off? I certainly don't. My contract is from September 1 to the following June 30. That's it. No more paychecks between those dates. Dear lord, please don't start THAT rumor that teachers get paid summer vacations. Too many people already believe it's true, and so they say we have cushy jobs. Cushy jobs, my butt.


I work in the summers, so I can pay my bills. I simply do not make enough throughout the year to save my money and live off of it in the summers. You have a sweet deal if you're getting paid for work you're not doing. Perhaps your paychecks are spread out over 12 months, and you just take home less throughout the year. Still, this would not work for me since my COL is sky-high here in NJ.


Also, what teachers only work 37 hours a week? I am quite curious to know what subject you teach since you are home at 3:30 every day. We are CONTRACTED to work those minimal hours, but any teacher worth his or her salt is doing some sort of overtime, whether its taking work home or putting in time before or after the contracted day at work.


We get a 35 minute lunch--not a lunch hour like most people get. We do not get 15 minute coffee breaks. We do not get time to run errands or work out at lunch. So if we are contracted to finish our days sooner than our counterparts, surely those things need to be taken into consideration.


The prep time we are given is a complete joke--can't get everything done during that time especially now with all the additional paperwork and safety policies they put on our backs. I don't know about you, but I am inundated with meetings and committee work that we are contracted to do as long as it's "reasonable." Also, we are expected to do 100 hours of unpaid professional development on our own time. No other profession I know of expects a person to self-train and not get paid for it. And no, this professional development doesn't count toward a pay raise. It's a state requirement, too.


I find the "paid" vacations (i.e. forced holidays during the school year) a scheduling nuisance. We cannot take days off before or after holidays, so how can one do any significant traveling during the school year? And the summer months are very expensive for traveling to choice spots. I agree with the OP that teachers have little opportunities for travel. If there is time, there is no money. I'm sick of traveling on breaks when everything is expensive--and then realizing that I should be home resting from my work. I always get sick on holidays because that is the time I actually slow down and get rest. Stuff catches up with me then.

Thank you technokat. I taught school for years, primarily in low-income, high-rish situations (Title I schools). The only reason I got paid during the summer was because I spread my 10 months of paychecks across the 12 months so that I wouldn't be completely without income in the summer.

I have taught music (PK-9), special ed, and prekindergarten and never once did my workday end at 3 or even 3:30. Even on the days when I left school at this time, I took work home with me. The standing joke for a long time was that if I ever remarried I would have to drastically change my life because I routinely took work to bed.

I have 30 hours beyond by Master's and 9 hours toward my Doctorate and left teaching a year ago. I LOVED what I did. Knowing that I was making a difference made up for a lot of what I did without. However, as a single mother of 2, I felt like I had to search for a different, more lucrative way of earning a living. I will be solely responsible for sending my children on to college. The fact is that I was afraid I wasn't going to be able to do this.

What really did me in was when I discovered that my bf, who has a 1 year trade school certificate, was more than doubling my salary!!! I followed his lead several months ago. I am now in educational sales. I travel to schools to sell administrators tools to use in the classroom. It kind of gives me the best of both worlds because I still get to use the knowledge and expertise that I have about education and the educational system, but I can actualy earn a living.

One other note: It has always made me crazy when people said to me (or now about teachers), "Oh, that's such a great job! You get to have every night and weekend and all summer off! I'd love having all that free time." As if!!!
 
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