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So Mr. Vick was released from a federal penitentiary yesterday and will be on house arrest for the next two months.

Putting the legal and ethical issues of his situation aside, what do you think of his future in professional football? Would you pick him up if you were your team's GM/owner/coach?
- May 21st, 2009, 09:21 am
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Even though Michael Vick is a talented player as a professional athlete who is looked up to by kids of all ages and young adults, I would have to pass on him as he makes a bad role model.
- June 7th, 2009, 09:55 am
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Most managers would take a player if they can still perform on the pitch.

Personally I would take him back on the basis of the fact that what he did, as unethical as it was, is not the kind of thing that kids can emulate or fans for that matter..at least not at large.

They don't have the resources to do this. If it was an offense that involved harming another human being or drugs this will influence my decision...these are more character based offenses and can easily be emulated by kids and young fans. I would take him back if he had the talent and is reformed.
- June 8th, 2009, 03:40 am
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I guess it's impossible to discuss Vick these days without consider the legal and ethical issues, lol.

Personally, I've never been impressed with Vick as a quarterback. And since he's been away in the clink, NFL offenses are evolving away from scrambling quarterbacks, and NFL defenses are drafting strategically to pick up speed at the LB positions to contain scrambling QBs. So if Vick wants to have a chance of success, he has to be better in the pocket. It will take time for him to get back to reading coverage again. I just don't know how effective he would be.
- June 8th, 2009, 05:49 am
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I was always a fan of Vicks but I never followed Atlanta or his stats. What a game breaker he was. I think one season he got 1,000 yards rushing.

Putting aside the legal and ethical questions aside I'd imagine Vick needs time to get his throwing accuracy up to date. If he ever does. Maybe he will start for a new football league.

I'm sure he'd make a good back-up in the NFL. Maybe he could break one or two for some yards.

I love animals but I also believe in justice. He's served his time. I'd give him a chance if I thought he could still play.
- June 16th, 2009, 01:34 am
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I was always a fan of Vicks but I never followed Atlanta or his stats. What a game breaker he was. I think one season he got 1,000 yards rushing.

Putting aside the legal and ethical questions aside I'd imagine Vick needs time to get his throwing accuracy up to date. If he ever does. Maybe he will start for a new football league.

I'm sure he'd make a good back-up in the NFL. Maybe he could break one or two for some yards.

I love animals but I also believe in justice. He's served his time. I'd give him a chance if I thought he could still play.
There is no such thing as justice for someone like him- his cruelty is reprehensible, and a little time in a cell does not mean he's paid for his crime IMO. At the very least he should be ineligible to ever play sports again. Look at Pete Rose! And his actions were no where near as disgusting as Vick's. What is our society coming to?? What are we teaching people? That as long as you have money you can get away with anything? Ugh. SO disgusted.
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In many ways, Michael Vick has more than paid for his transgressions. Animal cruelty is inexcusable and inhumane, no question about that, but his sentence was longer than those who have assaulted or even killed other human beings. I'm not one of those people who places an animal's life on par with a human's....sorry.

He spent nearly two years in prison and lost nearly all of his $100 million-plus fortune. Not to mention that, reasonably assuming he has no other marketable skills, he will have nothing to fall back on once his playing days are over (which may be sooner rather than later if he can't land as a starter on another team).
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Maybe he should have thought about all that before he did what he did. And I won't cry for him losing his fortune, since he's already proven he has more money than sense- or humanity for that matter. When you are a public figure you have a responsibility to be a role model, which he clearly fumbled. At least if he's properly punished, maybe it will make some other idiot have second thoughts about doing the same thing. Nope, he hasn't paid enough by far IMO.
- November 2nd, 2009, 08:16 am
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Well, that's certainly a debate that has no right or wrong answer. The bottom line is that he served his time and he won't go back to jail for his crimes so long as he doesn't commit them again.

I believe that there is an unwritten "hierarchy of transgressions" in which society is more likely to forgive certain actions than others. Animal cruelty is pretty close to the bottom of that list, along with child molestation. Infidelity and white collar crime (sans Madoff) seems to be closer to the "second chance" category.

I don't know how much impact Vick's imprisonment will have on stopping animal cruelty amongst us mortal beings, but I certainly think it sends a message to public figures.

Your opinions about public figures as role models would make for an interesting discussion on a separate thread. While I can certainly agree that to a certain extent athletes, celebrities, politicians, etc. should set a good example, I think parents need to be their children's primary role models. Of course, many parents aren't making the grade. They expect these public figures to raise their kids for them; I don't think that's a burden these figures are qualified to bear, nor should they have to. Just my two cents.
- November 2nd, 2009, 10:46 pm
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