Cyclist_Steve is offline Cyclist_Steve Post #1  February 9,2009, 9:19am
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A-Rod was untouchable... above reproach. Now he is as dirty as the others. Personally, I have not watched much Major League baseball since the first strike - when was that... '86?? I can't remember.





Contracts going thru the roof - flat ticket sales - dirty players... will this sport survive without a major overhaul?
 
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Cyclist_Steve, wrote :

A-Rod was untouchable... above reproach. Now he is as dirty as the others. Personally, I have not watched much Major League baseball since the first strike - when was that... '86?? I can't remember.





Contracts going thru the roof - flat ticket sales - dirty players... will this sport survive without a major overhaul?
I'm one of those that simply says now...I don't care unless you out them all


If the public , press, greedy team owners ...didn't make heroes of athletes and reward a god given talent that has been groomed and graded with million dollar contracts then when they fall and show a human side the shock and awe factor would not apply.


What happened to be our own heroes?


What happened to telling a child be the leader not the follower?


I have seen A-rod play and many others, I am a huge baseball fan, I love the sport and love the past-time..secretly being a red sox fan now i should be clapping, but i see no fun in seeing another one fall.


The sadness of this situation is we feed off the crumbs of another persons bad choices while others that are not caught still ride the roid wagon .


I say clean it all up..Out every test, every player..name names..hold them accountable and move forward
 
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What I find interesting is that the test that A-Rod got caught from was suppose to be anonymous with no one knowing who's blood/urine sample was who's. Then the report gets leaked. Someone is playing games with the results and with the information. I agree, they all need to be outed no matter how minor a player they are/were. Having coached high school sports for a time it is amazing how even at that age they are already looking for what can help them run farther, pump up better, and give them more energy because they look at the college and pro athletes and think they need to be at that level.


Oh, and poor poor A-Rod he felt he had to take the roids because he had just signed this large contract. Please - that is such a crock.
 
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Baseball, like all the major sports, is great enough to survive and thrive despite the idiots playing and operating it. This will pass for everyone but A-Rod. He will be hounded for this even after his career. Stupid. How much difference could it have made?
 
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jim - i tend to agree with you. A-roid is no bigger than the sport and it will survive.
 
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Cyclist_Steve, wrote :

A-Rod was untouchable... above reproach. Now he is as dirty as the others. Personally, I have not watched much Major League baseball since the first strike - when was that... '86?? I can't remember.





Contracts going thru the roof - flat ticket sales - dirty players... will this sport survive without a major overhaul?
Cyclist Steve, I definitely think the sport will survive! I think there will always be the question if they are playing with natural or supernatural (aka steroids) talent. I think there are enough players who still are legit and do not give baseball a bad name .





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Cyclist_Steve wrote :
Contracts going thru the roof - flat ticket sales - dirty players... will this sport survive without a major overhaul?
(When did what you're describing not exist in any sport?)

I love when people say the game has lost integrity...these people play for money.
 
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I called this a long time ago. Back when Pete Rose was seemingly the only villain in baseball, I said that steroids in baseball was a much worse offense than gambling. Purists may disagree, but I'll bet you Pete Rose never took steroids.

Anytime a man with the build of Pujols or Ryan Howard starts smacking balls into the parking lot, I'm going to wonder if it's because of steroids. I think my curiosity is reasonable.

Yes, steroids are starting to crop up in many sports. But since baseball was supposed to be America's sport, it gets more pub. Baseball will continue to live on but the questions will always be there, in my opinion.
 
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The problem is you can't accuse any player of using steroids before the date the steroids were actually banned. If a player admits that he used steroids but it was at a time when it was perfectly fine, maybe frowned upon but not banned, you can't do anything to them. If they're going to ban a substance for being performance enhancing then they should ban them all, no exceptions. Heck, cortisone is a steroid but they keep injecting it into pitchers so they can throw longer and better. Tell me that's not performance enhancing. Sure, you can argue that cortisone is only temporary, but it would be the same thing as injecting a slugger with a substance to make him stronger and hit harder for the next twelve hours. Tell me that would be okay.

Either ban all or none. Quite frankly I don't really give a damn. Steroids aren't healthy, it's their choice. If you look at the list of players they caught there are a lot of mediocre and less players named. You have to have the talent for the game in the first place. Steroids aren't going to make you a superstar if you don't have the talent. With ballpark prices the way they are I'd rather see a lot of hitting and excitement, it is entertainment after all, than a boring pitcher's duel or a team that bats like little leaguers.

It is at a point now that if a player is good he's obviously juicing. Anything over a .250 batting average makes them look bad. Now even a slump like David Ortiz of the Red Sox is having is being looked on because "he's not juicing anymore." Way off the mark, of course, but that's the mentality, guilty until proven innocent. These days major league players are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Eventually the steroid fever will die down but we'll probably have to wait until every player who has played before the official banned date is no longer in the game.

Move the drama to those awful reality TV shows, I just want to see a good ball game.
 
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Baseball will survive, but whether or not some players will survive the steriod flack is another matter.

Take the case of Roger Clemens. If I remember correctly he had a private trainer who he let go. The next thing you know is that said trainer said he gave Roger steriods and has the syringes to prove his accusations. As a nurse, I know for a fact that unless the syringe and needle were a solid one piece construction there is no way the trainer has irrefutable proof. Since the trainer would be giving Roger different medications by injection some of the meds require different needle lengths so it would mean that the least expensive way to handle this would be to get one size of syringe and several different sizes of needles. Doing this means that the trainer could remove a needle from the syringe he gave Roger a pain killer or vitamin B injection, replace the syringe with one he had filled with a steriod and claim he used that syringe and needle combination on Roger.

Another interesting tidbit is that the trainer saved these used syringes and needles. No matter who you are it is against the law to dispose of any medical waste in a public waste receptacle. All used syringes, needles, and scapels are to be placed into a bio-hazards (sharps container) and then taken to a clinic, doctor, hospital or I think a pharmacy for disposal. Clemens trainer was clearly in violation of the law if he kept all those syringes and needles.
 
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