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shapeShifter79 is offline shapeShifter79 Post #31  February 6,2012, 4:42pm
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majeswandar wrote :
However, I have casted my consciousness high above myself where it feels like I am flying.. I have drawn maps and I have been to places I have never been physically and tell someone the majority of the details of that place.
And to think, if you called up one or two of those skeptics offering a million dollars in exchange for successfully demonstrating any paranormal ability, you'd be set for life! I'm amazed at how many people have supernatural abilities, even monetize them to late-night t.v. watchers, and yet few like to prove their abilities. ::shrug::
 
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shapeShifter79 wrote :
And to think, if you called up one or two of those skeptics offering a million dollars in exchange for successfully demonstrating any paranormal ability, you'd be set for life! I'm amazed at how many people have supernatural abilities, many even monetize them to late-night t.v. watchers, and yet nobody seems to want to prove those dang skeptics wrong.
Well many of those skeptics use a method where you can't prove it to them. If you ask those same skeptics to say that they are not an alien they would not be able to prove that they are not. Also many of the people who do go on those shows tend to be fake. I do not need the world to see what I can do. I have proof for myself and that's all I need. Of course the simple fact that that proof is still alive and kickin kinda helps. You can also look up that there is a lot of real ones out there who have saved people and have found people and turned down the money that they were offered as a reward. Even John Edward and Soviah Brown were real until they lost themselves to their greed. Now they just try to ride on their success with cold readings...
 
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I don't, my father solved several cases like this however. He didn't make any money from what I know but he didn't do it for the money. We only charge for our gifts when we need help getting to ends meet. Even then it is usually to deter the people who just want a show. As for the gifts run in families I personally think that everyone has the ability to heal and communicate to everyone. It's just how you establish your world around you. Of course once you start going down the rabbit hole it is kinda hard to get back out but from what I've seen in this forum many of the posters have already dived a bit in.
How? If I were to give myself 30 days to learn how to heal or leave my body, what should I do for those days?
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Well many of those skeptics use a method where you can't prove it to them.
Yes. That method is called science. And you can't prove it because it doesn't actually exist.

If you ask those same skeptics to say that they are not an alien they would not be able to prove that they are not.
HA! You don't 'prove' negative statements. If someone says that they ARE an alien, then you can look for proof. Just like if someone says they can leave their body you ask for proof. Extraordinary claims require exraordinary evidence.

Also many of the people who do go on those shows tend to be fake.
Not many... all.

I do not need the world to see what I can do. I have proof for myself and that's all I need.
How noble. Wait... no it's not. PM me... I'll use my connections with the Louisville Skeptics Society to arrange observers from the James Randi foundation. They will give you 1 million dollars if you can demonstrate this ability of yours. You don't need the money? Give it to charity.

Of course the simple fact that that proof is still alive and kickin kinda helps.
What proof?

You can also look up that there is a lot of real ones out there who have saved people and have found people and turned down the money that they were offered as a reward. Even John Edward and Soviah Brown were real until they lost themselves to their greed. Now they just try to ride on their success with cold readings...
Cold readings huh? Fascinating.
 
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What is the point of claiming that everyone can do something without telling us how?
 
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sorry had to head to work. There are ton of sites on how to do it. The way you should do it is to find a quite place where you will not be distracted. Then focus inward, find a place inside yourself and make what several call a "temple" this could be the place that you were dreaming of in your earlier post harmony. Once you can get to this place without much struggle then you can start to expierment with opening your mind. A trick for this is to focus on a single point about the size of the tip of a pencil. Then try to take on everything you see from around that. As for going on to healing that comes from being able to empathize with the person you are trying to heal. Focusing completely and totally on them and not on yourself and you will start to feel where there pain is and hopefully it will come to you how to fix it. If not then you will need to figure out a way to do so. I find it helpful to visualize surrounding the areas with a white light or energy and slowly start canceling it out. Some people that I know like to try to smooth it out. I would also try not to do to much at one time. That energy has to come and go somewhere and you are the most likely source that it is going/coming from. As for the proof to my claims, my mother had a fatel heart attack, according to licscensed emt's who came in. If it was not for what I had done then should would have died. What I did was held the clot outside her third atrium. Then while holding that put her to sleep so that she would start to calm down and not feel any pain. Afterwards I started focusing on crushing the clot. All of this took about 30 mins and left me passed out for two days. The people that were there to witness this were my sisters who called the paramedics and my friend who after seeing this left quickly and I haven't heard from him again.
 
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majeswandar wrote :
sorry had to head to work. There are ton of sites on how to do it. The way you should do it is to find a quite place where you will not be distracted. Then focus inward, find a place inside yourself and make what several call a "temple" this could be the place that you were dreaming of in your earlier post harmony. Once you can get to this place without much struggle then you can start to expierment with opening your mind. A trick for this is to focus on a single point about the size of the tip of a pencil. Then try to take on everything you see from around that.
Has anyone tried this yet? What happened?
 
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Diana_P is offline Diana_P Post #38  April 18,2012, 9:28pm
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I'm glad you found this interesting.

Reverse_Dragon wrote :
First, creating something from nothing would not require infinite energy, it would only require the amount of energy that the something you were creating needed in order to exist. For instance, to create one calorie of heat, you would need precisely one calorie of energy... no more.
I must disagree. According to the law of conservation of energy, energy within an isolated system cannot be created or destroyed. So we aren’t “borrowing” external energy, transporting it from one place to another, or making use of potential energy, we are “creating” something that didn’t exist before - - a self aware being - - something clearly different and distinct from the entity that existed prior to the presence of self awareness. Creating energy in a closed system is as mathematically impossible as going faster than the speed of light.

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Second, since conciousness is an illusion of perception, it is not a 'thing' and requires no energy at all. It is simply the organization of existing matter and energy into a new pattern with more complex functionality. As such, while it doesn't require energy, it does require information.
The brain actually does require more energy when we are engaged in cognitive activities than when the mind is idle. In fact, the more complex the problem we are solving the more calories our brains use. So if the process of thinking requires energy I must respectfully disagree with your statement that "consciousness is an illusion of perception, it is not a thing."

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Lastly, the developement of self-awareness is an anolog (continuous) process, not a digital (discrete) one. If one must compare it to a light switch, it would be more accurate to use a dimmer switch, or rheostat. The awareness of self develops through incremental stages. Watch a newborn sometime as it stares at its own hand in rapt fascination, wiggling its fingers and giggling. This is an early step towards self awareness. There is no sudden flash of light where a person goes 'Hey... I'm a person!'
This reminds me of the debate about abortion and at what point tissue becomes a living being. The answer to that question is perhaps better left to divinity. However, I do think that there is a discrete moment in time where a person becomes "self-awareness" and even without having developed language skills says to herself, "I AM!"

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As for turning into an eagle, if you figure this one out let me know, because that would be awesome!
Ha ha!

Joking aside, I didn't ask to be a human being and from my perspective, whatever "magic trick" that allows me to experience being human could also allow me to experience life in some other form. Remember when we thought if man was meant to fly he'd be born with wings? I'm glad our species doesn't let what we are born with or without limit our thinking anymore!

Thanks for the intellectual calisthenics!
 
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Maybe one should decide if we are the body...or the soul that inhabits the body..

If we are the soul......then WE DO choose all circumstances......of a particular life...
As a Christian, I find this question particularly interesting.

If God is the architect of our lives how does He decide what becomes our birthright? How is it fair that this person is born into favor, riches, and health and the next person is born into poverty, ignorance, sickness and hardship? I don’t recall being able to make a choice or express a preference concerning who my parents would be prior to my birth. But, what if I somehow did influence my gender, race, and birthright? Fascinating!
 
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Diana_P wrote :
As a Christian, I find this question particularly interesting.

If God is the architect of our lives how does He decide what becomes our birthright? How is it fair that this person is born into favor, riches, and health and the next person is born into poverty, ignorance, sickness and hardship? I don’t recall being able to make a choice or express a preference concerning who my parents would be prior to my birth. But, what if I somehow did influence my gender, race, and birthright? Fascinating!
It's fascinating, but I think you are overemphasing the importance of this life and our birthright, station, family upbringing etc... Think of it...we are here on earth just mere blips in the scope of eternity. We are vapors, here today, gone tomorrow. Do you think all that earthly stuff ultimately matters? Riches, health...really, we all die and at the foot of the cross we are all equal. Did the apostles and missionaries throughout the ages have those advantages? If so, they seem to have given them up. What matters to God is our love and for him and others and that we are growing in His likeness.
 
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