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TallGuy65 is offline TallGuy65 Post #21  June 29,2010, 9:36pm
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For the past few years I have been totally dedicated and committed to God. In the process I have realized men don’t approach me anymore. Over the years I have been wondering why men dont find a powerful woman of God Sexy and Attractive. Are true men of God scared to approach a true women of God these days? I am very confused could some men of God please enlighten me on what is happening?
To sum up, you are searching for a man who is as strong in his faith as you are in yours. That can be a very daunting task, and in your case, it appears your faith is far stronger than any of the men you have met in the past. It is absolutely nothing to be ashamed of or in doubt of.

Spiritual women with a very strong faith base are indeed sexy and attractive. I have encountered a few such women...but my spirituality was not quite as strong as theirs and therefore I deemed us incompatible (my walk with God is a rocky road with many sharp turns and I take rest-stops along the way, though I still tread it with my head high...I just didn't feel they were my appropriate travelmate).

Keep your head high and do not lower your faith just to gain the eye of someone. You will blessed in time.
 
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notyet wrote :
here is the problem as i see it- there are no "men of god" left to truly value a "woman of god."

and what few "men of god" there are- are flirting with worldly women while worldly men are put off by the virtue of the woman trying to live her faith.

it is discouraging. but that is how i see it.
Notyet, I don't agree, but some of the women are looking at the same stuff that worldly women look at and wallking past eligible males who don't fit the stereotypes they have in mind. Also, some
churches are into neutering men, at least figuratively, so those churches have fewer men and fewer still who are manly.

There are those movements like Wild at Heart and others that seek to help men recover a Biblical masculinity that is attractive and real. BTW, NotYet, I'm glad you found someone. Anyway, just my 2 cents worth.
 
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"men dont find a powerful woman of God Sexy and Attractive"

Single folks should be concerned about serving and pleasing God. It seems odd to me that any such person would describe themselves as "powerful", and desire to be "Sexy and Attractive" (with capital letters, no less) to other people.

Perhaps "men of God" observe this dichotomy and instead of approaching her, choose to pray for this poor, carnal sister.

Perhaps you should seek out Godly counsel from older women.
 
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marymac1 wrote :
For the past few years I have been totally dedicated and committed to God. In the process I have realized men don’t approach me anymore. Over the years I have been wondering why men dont find a powerful woman of God Sexy and Attractive. Are true men of God scared to approach a true women of God these days? I am very confused could some men of God please enlighten me on what is happening?
you like to ask the hard questions don't you. let me give you the short and hard answer to it. Why are you worrying about it any way. When you give your life to Christ He is commited to take care of all your need, remember the sparrow thing? No it is not easy and I have fought for 40 years with him over this . The confusion you feel is becuse what you want is conflicting with the Holy Spirit, so give in and trust God and get on with him. You well find it better that way take it from me been there done that. Hay Moses is that the Jorden I see.
 
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marymac1 wrote :
For the past few years I have been totally dedicated and committed to God. In the process I have realized men don’t approach me anymore. Over the years I have been wondering why men dont find a powerful woman of God Sexy and Attractive. Are true men of God scared to approach a true women of God these days? I am very confused could some men of God please enlighten me on what is happening?
Okay could be 1 of 4 things....
1) God's trying to test you.... Maybe? But Honestly the thing with God's testing is normally about stuff to do with what you've done vs what you did do and what you still need to learn from. I can venture to say that "God may be protecting you from something" or perhapse the whole deal of "God doesn't throw anything at you that you can't handle" but all in all I'd lean away from that one. Atleast as an overall part of this. Not that this kind of thing doesn't happen but more or less it's gotta place in the physical somehow.

2)Depends on how you "are a woman of God". Now I'm not talking about the whole deal on "fornicatin' it up for the night, weekend, month, year" but more to the level of "how you carry out your interpretation of that". If you're being preachy, quoting stuff or anything like that you have the automated reaction of "Okay great, you got a personal responce to things based on what you were taught to focus on, not from you relating to me form your heart." If that's going on, or you're trying to convert people it's not gonna fly well. It'll look like an "ulterior motive" and no one's gonna watch that for long.

3)Are you putting that on yourself that men won't find you attractive due to the "Strong Woman of God" thing? Are you assuming that by "general male stereotypes" and stuff like that there's not much of a place for "a person like yourself"? Honestly, when it comes to the "gender stuff" 1/2 of it is just senseless crap to keep everyone guessing and the other 1/2 is stupid crap society wants to keep you going on.

4)So aside from all that to think about, maybe you're too busy looking at your own "Strong connection" that you're not seeing how others make their connection? Honestly there's totally "Strong men for God suitable for you" out there floating about. Maybe it's a matter of trying to find that part in them for you.

Also, get to know people closer and be open with stuff. The "one" usually is someone we can learn from too. (Part of that whole growing together part of it all)
 
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2)Depends on how you "are a woman of God". Now I'm not talking about the whole deal on "fornicatin' it up for the night, weekend, month, year" but more to the level of "how you carry out your interpretation of that". If you're being preachy, quoting stuff or anything like that you have the automated reaction of "Okay great, you got a personal responce to things based on what you were taught to focus on, not from you relating to me form your heart." If that's going on, or you're trying to convert people it's not gonna fly well. It'll look like an "ulterior motive" and no one's gonna watch that for long.
This caught my eye and I have to make a comment. Personally, I've often found that people who have a "problem" with a person with strong moral guidelines (who happens to be vocal about it), only has a problem with it because they've GOT a "fornicatin' it up for the night, weekend, month, year" past. Why is it that everyone LOVES a "fallen angel" but very very few actually give support or kudos to someone who is sexually pure when they let it be known publicly? It's almost like society dumps on anyone who tries to shine with honor and respect for themselves. Personally, I'd be happy to hear of someone who has struggled to remain pure at heart, mind, body and soul. They're all connected. Power to the virtuous!! Don't feel ashamed folks!! You are special and a testament to your will, beliefs and character. My tip of the hat to you all.

"V" is for victory!!

A wise person will value a values-driven person. So let yourselves shine without fear.

40 and victorious still,
LK
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Pirate wrote :
Often, when a woman is committed to serving God, she can seem standoffish to men (with good reason!, she's got other things on her mind). Some guys do find a woman who is very religious a bit intimidating.

It would be a terrible idea to back down from your beliefs, but you might want to make sure you are "available" in your interactions with men.
You are definitely "fresh" off the press, Pirate! Excellent and succinct imput, and often the way I feel when a woman acts "super spiritual." It is indeed intimidating, and you often feel that such a person would be looking for some "worldly" and less than spiritual flaw in your character- "He didn't pray before his meals!" "He doesn't attend services on a regular basis!" "He enjoys a beer or two from time to time!" "He uses profanity out of frustration and impatience!" Well, now you all know why you could write me off.

But, such a woman who acts in a "super spiritual" fashion does seem standoffish and unapproachable, so you might want to self-examine the vibe you may be putting out. Also, I don't know you, but don't let being a "woman of God" make you less than tolerant of someone's human frailties and imperfections, and don't play the game of spiritual one-up-manship ("so and so's just not 'spiritual' enough") . After all, we are all at various stages in the journey. And don't reject someone because they don't fit your vision of a picture perfect "MAN OF GOD," that's also why many people eventually find themselves alone. Remember what Christ said about the religious leaders, they appeared all polished and "spiritual" on the outside, and did all the right religious things, but inside they were seething with spiritual corruption and decay. The "right man" may be the one who appears unpolished, unrefined, rough around the edges, and even "unspiritual" by religious standards on the outside ( He may not pray five times a day facing Jerusalem, Rome, or the seat of his denominational headquarters; read fifty chapters from the "word of God" each day, carry the largest study Bible, complete with liner notes, to services on a regular basis, listen only to "Christian" music, read only "Christian" books, hold the right political position, or refrain from "worldly" habits, practices and appearances).

The "right person" may appear to be a tarnished gem on the outside, but have a warm-hearted, good-natured, and a compassionate, receptive, and teachable spirit on the inside. Anyways, "super spiritual" people will sometimes find themselves alone, since they have unrealistic expectations, and they often project this vibe to others.
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Logomachy wrote :
The only time I have ever met a woman I thought of as a true woman of God was the time I was introduced to a Buddhist nun. She seemed to me to be truly different from other women and men I have met. She seemed to shine from within. I was in awe of her and her obvious serenity and godly ways.

I have often contemplated this disparity as well. I have had people who have visited Tibet, or some other comparable place, tell me of the warmth of the people who freely open their homes, give out of their poverty, and basically open their homes to strangers.

While here in "Christian" America, we are hesitant in our openness toward others. We close our doors (and our hearts). We are relatively unconcerned with strangers who are in need. We hold to claims of "spirituality," but often that spirituality does not extend far beyond ourselves. In reality, it appears there is a direct duality between material affluence and in being truly spiritual. The more focused we become on the material, the more the spiritual is diminished. And it seems, that we here in America have been affected by this malady to one degree or the other. None of us has remained completely untarnished. However, I believe it may be more than just a Buddhist versus Christianity issue, but rather an issue of relative cultural affluence.

After all, even the Christian scriptures say that "the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil;" and the widow who only had two mites to give, was seen as contributing the greatest, since she gave out of all she had. And those who treat their fellow sojourner as a "neighbor" rather than a "stranger" are promised the reward of paradise; while those who fail to see the one in need, are assured of eternal punishment. But it seems the more we accumulate, the more we tend to hoard our material things, become increasingly focused on self gratification, and close our doors to others.
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You are definitely "fresh" off the press, Pirate! Excellent and succinct imput, and often the way I feel when a woman acts "super spiritual." It is indeed intimidating, and you often feel that such a person would be looking for some "worldly" and less than spiritual flaw in your character- "He didn't pray before his meals!" "He doesn't attend services on a regular basis!" "He enjoys a beer or two from time to time!" "He uses profanity out of frustration and impatience!" Well, now you all know why you could write me off.

But, such a woman who acts in a "super spiritual" fashion does seem standoffish and unapproachable, so you might want to self-examine the vibe you may be putting out. Also, I don't know you, but don't let being a "woman of God" make you less than tolerant of someone's human frailties and imperfections, and don't play the game of spiritual one-up-manship ("so and so's just not 'spiritual' enough") . After all, we are all at various stages in the journey. And don't reject someone because they don't fit your vision of a picture perfect "MAN OF GOD," that's also why many people eventually find themselves alone. Remember what Christ said about the religious leaders, they appeared all polished and "spiritual" on the outside, and did all the right religious things, but inside they were seething with spiritual corruption and decay. The "right man" may be the one who appears unpolished, unrefined, rough around the edges, and even "unspiritual" by religious standards on the outside ( He may not pray five times a day facing Jerusalem, Rome, or the seat of his denominational headquarters; read fifty chapters from the "word of God" each day, carry the largest study Bible, complete with liner notes, to services on a regular basis, listen only to "Christian" music, read only "Christian" books, hold the right political position, or refrain from "worldly" habits, practices and appearances).

The "right person" may appear to be a tarnished gem on the outside, but have a warm-hearted, good-natured, and a compassionate, receptive, and teachable spirit on the inside. Anyways, "super spiritual" people will sometimes find themselves alone, since they have unrealistic expectations, and they often project this vibe to others.
Dear Rix,

I must say, dear man, you are profound, not to mention funny!

In your first paragraph, you're talking about "legalism" and too many Christians do engage in that. Of course, you already know that that's not what being a Christian and loving one another is all about.

I like your post that immediately follows your post I've quote above too (the one right above my post here.) You're so right.

Regarding that post, you've probably noticed that many people, when they receive a raise, don't save their money but simply higher their standard of living!

Also, and I've observed this more often than I'd like, the more money a person has (not always of course), the cheaper with others he or she tends to be, yet I've seen the very poor in projects helping others. I've seen this over-and-over in an inner-city ministry.

You make very good points in both posts!

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Thanks Java,

I really appreciate your gracious spirit and your insights. It's great to have you back on the boards! Yes, it is encouraging when you see some outreach that has the heart to want to make a difference, and ventures into the inner city. And sadly, it is disheartening when the opposite occurs, and areas where the need may be the greatest are abandoned. Perhaps, out of "middle class" comfort and complacency?

I attended a ministers conference years ago, and one senior pastor who had a well established church in the downtown area, complained about the people who would wander in off the street. Some of the other ministers at the conference chuckled with a tone of amusement. But I thought, what was the church suppose to be about, but the downtrodden and those in need.

It wasn't much later that particular church had abandoned its facility downtown for a new state of the art complex out in the suburbs ( I guess that's appropriate for "preaching to the choir"). Now, the property has become a municipal court annex for the city ( talk about the merging of church and state ). It is a sad reminder every time I drive by the building. Where there once was a facility in a place that could possibly make a difference, it is now city property.

Anyways, it is good to see your presence back more and more on the boards. Don't let the curmudgeons discourage you!

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