Gods will and sex vs abstinence for older folks


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livenlearn is offline livenlearn Post #121  April 26,2011, 9:56pm
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Wonderwoman402 wrote :
It hasn't had that effect on me. My long-term relationships have all been based on respect, honor, integrity, patience and understanding, and their character, beliefs, and value systems have been strong and consistent with mine.

God has other things to worry about than whether or not I (or anyone else) is having sex. The judgment of other humans in this regard does not matter to me.

It amazes me how Christianity has become a tool for others to judge others and their personal lives.
lets go back in time here.
Most of the marriages were arranged back then. Usually old geezers to young girls.

After the marriage the bloody sheet was supposed to show she was a virgin and hung out the window for all to see.

How come people do not see the redemption of the law of sin and death?????
 
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j0hn8andy is offline j0hn8andy Post #122  April 27,2011, 11:11am
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ChristianBrother wrote :
I don't see it as judging others but simply holding each other accountable.

Think of it as Education for fellow Christians, if you will.
That right there is the problem. Others do see it as a judgment.

We've both been in threads together when Christians felt like they were being judged...maybe even slandered...by a person who didn't see it that way at all.

Education for fellow Christians...all well and good. But threads here on eHA...

Just as there are Christians I've seen enter the Athiests Group...there are people who may not be Christians enter the Christian ones. This board itself...Religion and Spirituality...is not devoted strictly to Christians. We have many different faiths represented here.

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Wonderwoman402 wrote :
It hasn't had that effect on me. My long-term relationships have all been based on respect, honor, integrity, patience and understanding, and their character, beliefs, and value systems have been strong and consistent with mine.
Personally, I view a long term relationship as someone who has been married with their spouse for many years.

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God has other things to worry about than whether or not I (or anyone else) is having sex. The judgment of other humans in this regard does not matter to me.
I don't know which god or beliefs you espouse, so I can't really comment. Was just curious.

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Wonderwoman402 is offline Wonderwoman402 Post #124  April 27,2011, 9:07pm
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Luminous_Knight wrote :
Personally, I view a long term relationship as someone who has been married with their spouse for many years.
My relationship with my husband lasted 25 years. Yes, we had sex before marriage (had sex within 2 weeks of meeting, as I recall!)
Since being divorced, I consider a long-term dating relationship to be at least one year. I've had 4 of those.

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I don't know which god or beliefs you espouse, so I can't really comment. Was just curious.
There's part of the problem.... christians just assume that what they believe G-d thinks is the only way people should believe. You don't know G-d's will any better than I do, or my Jewish boyfriend does, or my Buddhist friend does, or my "spiritual but not religious" friends do..... I have been friends with a Methodist minister who would not agree that "older folks" (as in the title of this thread) have to be abstinent, so not even all christians are going to agree... and who are you to say which one's interpretation is correct? If your version works for you, go for it. But don't assume you are right and everyone else is wrong.
 
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Wonderwoman402 wrote :
I'm sure glad the G-d I believe in has a lot more to care about than whether I have sex with someone or not.
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God has other things to worry about than whether or not I (or anyone else) is having sex. The judgment of other humans in this regard does not matter to me.
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You don't know G-d's will any better than I do.
Except that above, you claim to know the will of "your g-d" very well indeed!

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don't assume you are right and everyone else is wrong.
Like you do, Got it!
 
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ChristianBrother wrote :
Except that above, you claim to know the will of "your g-d" very well indeed!
You believe G-d is concerned about whether or not you have sex. I believe G-d has far more important things to be concerned with. I don't claim that it is G-d's will that I should go out and have sex. I just believe that he/she does not care. Not caring is not the same as proclaiming what "G-d's will" is.

By the way, I believe there is ONE G-d. I do not believe in "my G-d" or "your G-d." We may have different ways of interpreting who G-d is and/or what it means, but that doesn't mean I think I have my own personal G-d and you have yours. Talk like that ("your god/my god") divides more than it unites.

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Like you do, Got it!
I already said if your beliefs work for you, go for it. I did not say you should believe the same way I do.
 
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ChristianBrother is offline ChristianBrother Post #127  April 29,2011, 9:02pm
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Wonderwoman402 wrote :
I'm sure glad the G-d I believe in...
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..."your g-d"...
Wonderwoman402 wrote :
I believe there is ONE G-d. I do not believe in "my G-d" or "your G-d." We may have different ways of interpreting who G-d is and/or what it means, but that doesn't mean I think I have my own personal G-d and you have yours. Talk like that ("your god/my god") divides more than it unites.
When you stated, "the G-d I believe in" it sure sounded as if you were referring to a god that perhaps you did not think that I also believed in. It sounded a lot like perhaps we believed in different Gods.

And yes, I would agree that "talk like that" is divisive.
 
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miss_sparkle is offline miss_sparkle Post #128  May 3,2011, 4:12pm
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Luminous_Knight wrote :
What I would suggest is keeping yourself occupied with as many hobbies and activities as you can. Distractions are key in letting time pass. I would also suggest physical fitness, it can really help flush out negative emotions.

Good day and wellness to you,
LK
Thank you, LK. I just saw this today.
You're right. Serving others, doing fun stuff I enjoy, and exercise all help a great deal.
 
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