Did Jesus Christ have a wife and a child? What do you think?


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A couple of weeks ago I crawled out from the rock under which I live and finally watched The DaVinci Code. Really interesting movie! I was especially fascinated at the visual interpretations of Da Vinci's The Last Supper and the idea that Jesus and Mary Magdeline were married and that Mary gave birth to Jesus' child after his crucifixion and resurrection.

Granted, this is a movie but I still found those theories fascinating.

What do YOU think? Could this be true? And if so, what would the implications be, in your mind, to Christianity as a whole?
 
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It makes for good book sales, not good scholarship. Dan Brown has a lot to gain in the form of drumming up interest for his novels by being coy in interviews instead of just stating "it's an interesting fiction I borrowed because I thought it'd make a good book".

A quick Google search will turn up plenty of information on the topic, but here's one article from National Geographic as a starting point:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...inci_code.html
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cardguy is right; it's a fun story, but there's no evidence for it at all. If it had been true, I rather doubt that it would have been hidden. There was no expectation that the coming Messiah would be celibate, and the New Testament makes no effort to hide the fact that some of the apostles were married. The tradition of priestly celibacy developed much later.
 
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No, Jesus did not have a wife and a child. Jesus came to die for us, not to get married, etc.
There is no evidence of such things as Jesus having a wife and child.
 
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AlexandraCassandra wrote :
No, Jesus did not have a wife and a child. Jesus came to die for us, not to get married, etc.
There is no evidence of such things as Jesus having a wife and child.
Thanks everyone for your responses.

I am curious about yours, Alexandra. If marriage and procreation while married is sacred, why would Jesus not engage in these activities?
 
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eHA_Admin_Lori wrote :
Thanks everyone for your responses.

I am curious about yours, Alexandra. If marriage and procreation while married is sacred, why would Jesus not engage in these activities?
Like I stated before, His purpose in coming to Earth was to die for us, (die for our sins). There is no marriage in Heaven. I believe that children should be conceived and raised in the sanctity of marriage, but Jesus's purspose wasn't to procreate on Earth. Jesus is God, and he paid the ultimate sacrifies for us, so we could be in Heaven with Him one day if we believe in God and Jesus. The Bible teaches that Jesus is the only way and I do believe what the Bible says. The Bible does not talk about Jesus getting married, nor Him having children. But it mentions that Jesus did have half brothers, hence Mary and Joseph did have children together after Jesus' birth.
 
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It's also a premise in "The Last Temptation of Christ" by Nikos Kazatzakis.

If you look at it in the context of the society that Jesus lived in, it was unusual that he wasn't married. That society also had a history of itinerant preachers who wandered in from the desert.
Who knows how much of the original gospels were lost in translation over the years. The odds are very good that what we read today is not even close to the originals. With each translation, a new "spin" was put on the words to meet the needs of that generation. Look at all the interpetations that exist today, from the literal to the "Quotations of Chairman Jesus"
Does it really matter if he truly became flesh, and was married or had kids. Didn't Christ say the kingdom of heaven is in me? Maybe that's more important than the words written by men. Anybody look recently.
 
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I think, when one looks at this question, the first thing they have to consider is whether they take the Bible literally or not. If one does, then that answers the question: No wife, no family.

After that, then it depends on whether one considers the Bible myths to make a point or an actual history with some degree of accuracy. Then one also has to look at the sources that Dan Brown took. Even if you look at Holy Blood, Holy Grail, a major source for him, he didn't even take that straight. From what I've read, there is more evidence that Jesus didn't really die when crucified than that he married.

Personally, I prefer the idea that Jesus did have a wife and child, that if the purpose was sacrifice, that Jesus experienced as much of human life as possible, so he knew what our spouses and children and families mean to us.
 
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The main theme of The DaVinci Code was basically just a rehashing of the bizarre sensationalism found in an earlier work -Holy Blood, Holy Grail by Baigent, Leigh, and Lincoln (1983). Even Bill Maher, to his credit, acknowledges this fact in the movie Religulous.

The DaVinci Code is to Holy Blood, Holy Grail what The Left Behind series (LaHaye and Jenkins) is to the earlier work Late Great Planet Earth by Hal Lindsey [ One of the biggest bestsellers of the Seventies. Lindsey popularized the apocalyptic theories began roughly a century earlier by Plymouth Brethren preacher Darby (Pretribulation Premillenial Dispensationalism). However, the concepts most Americans are familiar with, such as a "Pretrib rapture," are very new and novel within the scope of Church history (1850's)].

The Last Temptation of Christ by Nikos Kazantzakis really did not propose the theory of Jesus being married in the same way as The DaVinci Code or Holy Blood, Holy Grail . But rather, proposed it as "the last temptation" to divert Jesus from his calling, and his "passion."

I'm surprised that less attention is given to other ideas brought forth in The DaVinci Code such as the alleged similarities between the storyline of Christianity and the various Mystery religions (from Osiris to Dionysus). If true, this is even more problematic for the "unique" claims of Christianity.
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I've noticed that people that bring up DaVinci Code rarely bring up Holy Blood, Holy Grail (thanks, Rix, for including it). But there's one more book to consider: "The Woman With the Alabaster Jar." Margaret Starbird read HB,HG and was so incensed by it she set out to prove it wrong, and ended up taking the same side. But she also had enough of an academic background that she wasn't just following blind leads wildly.

It's been years since I've read this, so I'm fuzzy, but she makes points about traditions at the time and how the crucifixion was likely part of a religious ceremony that may or may not have ended with the death of Jesus. (When I met her, I asked her about this and she said she wasn't sure, from all she had read if Jesus died on the cross or not.)
 
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