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No. I wouldn't because I am not a religious person, and really have developed a disdain for religion. I just see so much hypocracy that it makes me sick, and I just can not get myself to beleive something that has been shown as false. To me to beleive in something I know is false is something I can not imagine. And there is no argument, since anyone who believes in something like the earth being 6000 yrs old, and will argue that fact based on a book other men wrote prior to present science boggles my mind. In the past the blessed spoke with God, now only the nuts do. Why is that?
- August 6th, 2009, 10:04 pm
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Whidbeydc wrote :
No. I wouldn't because I am not a religious person, and really have developed a disdain for religion. I just see so much hypocracy that it makes me sick, and I just can not get myself to beleive something that has been shown as false. To me to beleive in something I know is false is something I can not imagine. And there is no argument, since anyone who believes in something like the earth being 6000 yrs old, and will argue that fact based on a book other men wrote prior to present science boggles my mind. In the past the blessed spoke with God, now only the nuts do. Why is that?
Sure, but how do you really feel...

No need to get snarky. Just say you're happy with your own theology or lack thereof and wouldn't be willing to change.
- August 6th, 2009, 10:08 pm
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Whidbeydc wrote :
No. I wouldn't because I am not a religious person, and really have developed a disdain for religion. I just see so much hypocracy that it makes me sick, and I just can not get myself to beleive something that has been shown as false. To me to beleive in something I know is false is something I can not imagine. And there is no argument, since anyone who believes in something like the earth being 6000 yrs old, and will argue that fact based on a book other men wrote prior to present science boggles my mind. In the past the blessed spoke with God, now only the nuts do. Why is that?
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No need to get snarky. Just say you're happy with your own theology or lack thereof and wouldn't be willing to change.
I'm with Whidbeydc on this one, and commend the forthrightness.

Through my experience opposing supernaturalism and superstition in Internet debate, I am aware of very negative responses to non-theism that characterize many supernaturalists. Many (most?) convey an attitude that they are "special" or "chosen" or somehow superior to all who do not worship their favorite deity (among thousands that are feared or worshiped by humans) according to their favored dogma, ritual and worship practices.

Getting "snarky" seems much more characteristic of supernaturalists toward naturalists than vice versa. However, that is often deemed acceptable in a "Christian nation" where promotion of religion, recruiting, and proselytizing are accepted (often "because the bible says so"), but speaking against religion is horrifying to many.
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disdain...hypocracy...makes me sick...shown as false...there is no argument...nuts
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I'm with Whidbeydc on this one, and commend the forthrightness.

Through my experience opposing supernaturalism and superstition in Internet debate, I am aware of very negative responses to non-theism that characterize many supernaturalists. Many (most?) convey an attitude that they are "special" or "chosen" or somehow superior to all who do not worship their favorite deity (among thousands that are feared or worshiped by humans) according to their favored dogma, ritual and worship practices.

Getting "snarky" seems much more characteristic of supernaturalists toward naturalists than vice versa. However, that is often deemed acceptable in a "Christian nation" where promotion of religion, recruiting, and proselytizing are accepted (often "because the bible says so"), but speaking against religion is horrifying to many.
That's not being "forthright", that's being obnoxious and promoting stereotypes. I don't honestly see how it helps the thread. It's just one needless little poke with a stick.

And I have experienced very negative responses to theism as well, despite the fact that I do not proselytize or even mention my faith unless asked, so it's not a matter of Christians thinking they are right. It's a matter of people thinking they are right.

I guess I was hoping for a little more theistic tolerance and respect as fellow humans, as most here have been able to do, not the assumption that this is the perfect venue to call people names.
- August 7th, 2009, 05:52 am
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No. Nor would I date anyone who's willing for the sake of the relationship.
- August 7th, 2009, 10:21 am
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No. Nor would I date anyone who's willing for the sake of the relationship.
Great answer! Neither would I.
- August 7th, 2009, 12:27 pm
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I was Protestant when I married a Catholic. We didn't talk much about religion, but each felt there was NO WAY we could change. I naively thought that "everything would work out" as if by magic, fortunately the Holy Spirit had other ideas and I joined the Catholic church 3 years later.
After 13 years of bad marriage and 2 great children we divorced. That experience taught me to believe two important things:
1. Even if you practice the same faith you can still be "unequally yoked" and it won't work.
2. If at all possible children should be raised by two parents who are equally yoked and share the same faith.

However the question is would you convert if you HAD to, and agreeing with most responses on here no I absolutely would not.
- August 9th, 2009, 02:51 pm
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I was Protestant when I married a Catholic. We didn't talk much about religion, but each felt there was NO WAY we could change. I naively thought that "everything would work out" as if by magic, fortunately the Holy Spirit had other ideas and I joined the Catholic church 3 years later.
After 13 years of bad marriage and 2 great children we divorced. That experience taught me to believe two important things:
1. Even if you practice the same faith you can still be "unequally yoked" and it won't work.
2. If at all possible children should be raised by two parents who are equally yoked and share the same faith..
From what is said above, (and from what we know from real world experience) one can have a bad marriage between people of the same religion – or a bad marriage between people of different religions -- and help from a holy spirit may not make a bad marriage into a good one (even between people of the same faith).

What, then, can be identified as a reason to prefer to marry a person of the same religion?

"Equally yoked" seems to have flexible meaning,
- August 9th, 2009, 04:14 pm
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I would never convert. I believe what I believe. I am a protestant Christian and I have actually considered converting to Catholicism, but the difference between the two as far as the fundamentals are negligible. I'd be converting for other reasons, not a relationship though! I am fully accepting of most other beliefs. I have had friends that are Muslim, Jewish, New Agers, Atheists (I used to be one), and really don't have a problem with any of them.

As far as kids, I wont be having any of those, but I would raise them to believe what they want, like I was. Both of my parents were Catholic, but we never had anything forced on us.
- August 9th, 2009, 04:45 pm
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Absolutely not. I'm always astounded when people do this.

While I'm no heathen, I wouldn't change my faith to accomodate a relationship. I've also noticed that some converts, not all, become radical in their new faith...which all seems odd to me.
- August 9th, 2009, 05:11 pm
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