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i think you have to know which side the butter is on - and it's your marriage, not your church. if your spouse tussles with your pastor, you are going to have to go with your spouse. that said, i could not renounce catholicism.
- July 7th, 2009, 03:49 pm
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I once walked into the breakroom at work, and observed that a coworker was wearing a Ganesh necklace, so I asked her about it. Her reply was basically that she chose Ganesh for her god, because "she liked Ganesh."

Personally, I found this disposition rather troubling, adopting a god just because "I like him." Does the quest for truth and knowledge have no meaning in our postmodern culture? Whatever you perceive to be true, is true for you; But what I perceive to be true, is true for me? The attitude in our postmodern culture is that contradiction equals truth. However, two mutually exclusive and opposing categories cannot both be true. It is logically inconsistent. There must be objective truth, and the contradiction must be falsehood. Therefore, I could not convert to someone else's belief system as if it were some hip fad. It would have to be out of genuine conviction, and not out of sentiment or love.
- July 9th, 2009, 04:27 pm
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- July 12th, 2009, 09:06 pm
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I once walked into the breakroom at work, and observed that a coworker was wearing a Ganesh necklace, so I asked her about it. Her reply was basically that she chose Ganesh for her god, because "she liked Ganesh."

Personally, I found this disposition rather troubling, adopting a god just because "I like him." Does the quest for truth and knowledge have no meaning in our postmodern culture? Whatever you perceive to be true, is true for you; But what I perceive to be true, is true for me? The attitude in our postmodern culture is that contradiction equals truth. However, two mutually exclusive and opposing categories cannot both be true. It is logically inconsistent. There must be objective truth, and the contradiction must be falsehood. Therefore, I could not convert to someone else's belief system as if it were some hip fad. It would have to be out of genuine conviction, and not out of sentiment or love.
Well said, sir! Bravo! There is no point in adopting a belief because it is popular, fashionable, or belongs to someone one cares about. There is no reason to do it other than out of conviction that it is the truth. Period.
- July 12th, 2009, 09:26 pm
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rix wrote :
I once walked into the breakroom at work, and observed that a coworker was wearing a Ganesh necklace, so I asked her about it. Her reply was basically that she chose Ganesh for her god, because "she liked Ganesh."

Personally, I found this disposition rather troubling, adopting a god just because "I like him." Does the quest for truth and knowledge have no meaning in our postmodern culture? Whatever you perceive to be true, is true for you; But what I perceive to be true, is true for me? The attitude in our postmodern culture is that contradiction equals truth. However, two mutually exclusive and opposing categories cannot both be true. It is logically inconsistent. There must be objective truth, and the contradiction must be falsehood. Therefore, I could not convert to someone else's belief system as if it were some hip fad. It would have to be out of genuine conviction, and not out of sentiment or love.
I'm on board with that. I also think what you wrote shows the fallacy of 'tolerance'. Sure, 'tolerance' is better than 'intolerance'....but 'tolerance' also fosters complacent ignorance. Why don't we find out what is real and true, not just claim that everyone's (contradictory) 'truth' is right for them?
- July 13th, 2009, 12:23 am
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Well said, sir! Bravo! There is no point in adopting a belief because it is popular, fashionable, or belongs to someone one cares about. There is no reason to do it other than out of conviction that it is the truth. Period.
Perhaps I should amend that to say "out of conviction or a deep hope that it is the truth". Let's face it, some days, it's hard to feel convicted and we just cling to hope and grace.
- July 13th, 2009, 07:43 am
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No, I would not convert or expect anyone else to. Mutual respect is all that I would require. That being said, I don't know if I could have a serious intimate relationship with someone who didn't share some basic beliefs regarding God.

My husband was agnostic and we made it work. He even came to church with me, mostly to watch the kids so I could sing in the choir. Ideally I would like someone with whom I could share my sprirituallity with.
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I might switch denominations (I've already been Methodist, Baptist and currently Presbyterian) but I could not leave Christianity. Being that I am beyond having kids, I feel a little more free to date men who are either vague about their own spirituality or respectful of mine, but I'm very upfront about it so they know what they're getting themselves into.

I have to admit, though, there are some religions (or lack thereof) where I know I could not be in a good relationship with a man having those beliefs. Just too polar opposite of mine.

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- July 25th, 2009, 08:16 pm
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Does the phrase "Not for love nor money" ring any bells?
My faith saved my life. Tough act to follow.
- August 5th, 2009, 02:48 pm
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Would YOU Go to HELL ...for love????
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