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What are examples of nonsexual sins in the Christian faith?
 
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Well, my first response was moderated, so I will try again.


Most of them are nonsexual, actually. Nine out of the ten commandments, for example. As far as those that are specific to Christians, Jesus reserves his strongest words for religious leaders of his time who are self-righteous. Matthew 3:7 and 12:2 are just two examples, but there aremany more. It's one of the major conflicts that he encounters in his ministry.


Jesus also said that the two most important commandments were to love God with all your heart and to love your neighbor as yourself. Any failures to do that can also be regarded as sins of omission.
 
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graceventually,560948 wrote :

Well, my first response was moderated, so I will try again.


Most of them are nonsexual, actually. Nine out of the ten commandments, for example. As far as those that are specific to Christians, Jesus reserves his strongest words for religious leaders of his time who are self-righteous. Matthew 3:7 and 12:2 are just two examples, but there aremany more. It's one of the major conflicts that he encounters in his ministry.


Jesus also said that the two most important commandments were to love God with all your heart and to love your neighbor as yourself. Any failures to do that can also be regarded as sins of omission.
So then where did so many of the modern-day so called 'good Christians' go wrong as they seem to commit those same very sins you've stated as the worst according to JC (especially the self-righteousness, and abjectly failing to "love thy neighbor as thyself" ones) with fervent vehemence?
 
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Excellent question. Evil can be an insidious thing. I think sometimes that it is easier for some to throw stones at others for things that they aren't personally tempted by than to deal with their own need for repentance in their own lives; i.e., Christians who get very hot and bothered about


g a y s. But I guess if I start complaining about them, I'm then guilty of the same thing. Better to save my breath to cool my own porridge, as the Brits say.
 
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This is why atheism is so much easier because there is no sin or evil there is only logical and illogical, consistent and inconsistent.
 
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The27thS,563992 wrote :

This is why atheism is so much easier because there is no sin or evil there is only logical and illogical, consistent and inconsistent.
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But logic is in no way, shape or form remotely related to faith. There is a very good amount of "faith" in Atheism so you don't make a good case here for Atheism. You are just furthuring their stereotypical view of Atheism.


I think that Atheists CAN be just as closed minded as any extreme religious group. To say that there is or is NOT a god is arrogant. Atheists and the faithful can neither prove nor disprove the existance of a god, there is no direct evidence that can prove it either way. The best the human race can do is give a shoulder shrug and say, "I'm not sure, but I believe/don't believe that there is a god". (Note: believing is NOT the same as KNOWING!)
 
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I believe with all my heart that there is a God. I could tell all kinds of stories where he has been there for me.
 
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notamaninpower,561719 wrote :

So then where did so many of the modern-day so called 'good Christians' go wrong as they seem to commit those same very sins you've stated as the worst according to JC (especially the self-righteousness, and abjectly failing to "love thy neighbor as thyself" ones) with fervent vehemence?
I think that your answer may lay in the term "so-called". One of the many recurring themes in Scripture relates to the concept of false spiritual leaders, those in a position of power within their faith who use their position not to improve the welfare of their spiritual communities, but instead to improve their personal position. Some (although not all) of these false spiritual leaders in a modern context are likely not to be genuine believers, but instead seek their positions for material, social, or political gain. Discerning between these individuals and those who genuinely seek to do God's will is very difficult, but my experience suggests that examining deeds rather than words will bear out who the genuinely spiritual are.


What we have to be wary of as we try to discern those who are good spiritual leaders and who are false spiritual leaders (or even laity for that matter) is the human tendency to judge those who we deem to be false. I find that one of my greatest challenges as a Christian is to carry out the advice spelled out in the second chapter of Paul's Letter to the Romans - to leave judgment in God's hands and to direct my efforts toward being the best person I can be. I openly admit failing in this regard far more frequently than I would like.
 
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snowmannut,564396 wrote :

I believe with all my heart that there is a God. I could tell all kinds of stories where he has been there for me.
Keyword, "believe ". I know you believe it. I don't question that. Schizophrenics fully believe that their alternate world is 100 percent real as well.


I prefer to think with my brain, not my heart. Maybe that's the problem some people are having, I don't know.
 
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The27thS,563992 wrote :

This is why atheism is so much easier because there is no sin or evil there is only logical and illogical, consistent and inconsistent.*
Do we look for easier in life or do we accept the challenges and fight the good fightj? Atheist believers have sin and evil too, but it is ignored as an ostrich with it's head in the sand. Logical/illogical is based on each persons perception and past experiences. What is logical to one may not be to another. The only consistenent thing that exist is that inconsistency still exists. Please.
There must be evil if there is good. There must be up and a down. There must be a right and left. There must be equal and opposite reaction to each action. Therefore, when you see bad going on you must do an equal amount of good to offset that or we are all doomed, religious or not.
 
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