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chimerical is offline chimerical Post #1  September 2,2010, 1:07am
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Is it more important for a candidate to agree with you on economic policies or civil rights issues? Or do you see the two as irrevocably intertwined?

Also--is it more important to you that a candidate agrees with you regarding domestic policy or foreign policy?

If that's too abstract to really get a discussion going... What if you agreed with a candidate's stance on gay marriage, but disagreed with her/him on tax breaks for big business? Or, what if you agreed with both of the above, but disagreed with him/her on Iraq? Which issue would ultimately have the stronger pull? (And--looking toward the abstract--is it generally true that that type of issue is most important to you?)
 
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I rarely find a candidate with whom I can agree on everything. I decide based on the overall balance.
 
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Like windsurfing said, I've never seen a candidate that I agree with on everything.

The way I look at it, I prioritize the issues that are important to me and support the candidate that I believe will act on the important issues first. Depending on how much of a blunderhead a candidate might be (like Bush2), the subject issue may vary. ie: To me the economy is usually the most important issue. But when a president sends our guys and my relatives off to die for someone else's cause as a personal vendetta (Iraq), my support will change.
 
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Like windsurfing said, I've never seen a candidate that I agree with on everything.

The way I look at it, I prioritize the issues that are important to me and support the candidate that I believe will act on the important issues first. Depending on how much of a blunderhead a candidate might be (like Bush2), the subject issue may vary. ie: To me the economy is usually the most important issue. But when a president sends our guys and my relatives off to die for someone else's cause as a personal vendetta (Iraq), my support will change.
Interesting. In theory, the economy is very important to me, but I don't feel like I have sufficient background to make a good judgment call on it. What do you usually base your evaluation of candidates on, in terms of the economy? (Or, is it the case that you do have a background in it?)

Civil rights issues trump economy for me, just because I don't have the expertise to judge the economy, but I do feel that I have the expertise to evaluate social justice and injustice. Foreign policy used to be a distant third... and then Bush took power. Now I pay a little more attention to what a candidate's saying about the Middle East & so on.

Also, if you don't mind me asking, do you consider yourself a Democrat / Republican / Libertarian / Independent / something else? I wonder if conservatives or liberals have a stronger opinion on the economy... and if conservatives or liberals are more likely to judge that economic issues are intertwined with social justice issues?

I'm a liberal, by the way, although I used to be libertarian. I've always been big on civil rights, though, no matter which party I was batting for. You?
 
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Seeing that I would prefer to deal with domestic issues before extending resources worldwide my focus is on domestic ideas.

The economy...well... I don't give gov't credit when times are good nor do I blame when times are bad. One thing is always constant economically & that is there is Always opportunity.

Some have given up on the possibility of fairness in our system & I will stand with those that wish to fight for this.
 
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Interesting. In theory, the economy is very important to me, but I don't feel like I have sufficient background to make a good judgment call on it. What do you usually base your evaluation of candidates on, in terms of the economy? (Or, is it the case that you do have a background in it?)

I would base my evaluation on fiscal responsibility policy and right now, neither major party seems to be acting responsibly. In theory, I favor the Republican party, but the last several years they have gone astray with spending so some of the Libertarian views are looking more palatable. One thing that will never work for me is 'spreading the wealth'.

I also recognize that most of the overspending originates with the Congress, and presidential power here, I believe, is too limited. Let the President exercise a line item veto. Numerous governors have it, the President should have it. Right now all he can do is lobby congress to go along with his policy.

Also, if you don't mind me asking, do you consider yourself a Democrat / Republican / Libertarian / Independent / something else? I wonder if conservatives or liberals have a stronger opinion on the economy... and if conservatives or liberals are more likely to judge that economic issues are intertwined with social justice issues?

Up until now I was independent. I registered Republican only to vote in the past presidential primary election. (In NJ you can't vote in a primary election unless you're registered to a party.) However, more and more, I'm agreeing with a lot of the Libertarian views. But until a third party gains enough strength to win a presidential election, I'll have to prioritize the issues more important to me at that time and vote accordingly.

I believe that both Dems and Reps share some of the same views on the economy, but they disagree on how to solve them. Lately both think that throwing money around will solve everything.

And I really haven't given much thought to economic issues being intertwined with social justice issues. I'd like to think they're not but I'm sure someone can make another case. I'd venture a guess that if we (the country) were really prosperous, the economic issue would solve a host of others.

I'm a liberal, by the way, although I used to be libertarian. I've always been big on civil rights, though, no matter which party I was batting for. You?
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Foreign policy is #1 for me because that's where wars occur or get averted.

#2 is economy. I'm mostly a libertarian and would prefer the government to back off. I also believe a better and more globalized economy makes war less likely. And that a better economy fosters better civil rights and social justice and keeps the country more stable.

#2 is civil rights. I prefer to keep religion out of government and to extend full citizenry to all citizens.

#2 is character. Since no candidates ever satisfy me, I vote for ones who appear to have better character, even if I disagree with them on whatever.

(And if there were ever an Animal Rights candidate, I'd vote for them regardless of what else they stood for.)
 
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I am a libertarian politically ... Christian spiritually ... Faith trumps everything ...

From there I rarely, if ever (so far at least) vote for a candidate ... I won't vote for a candidate I don't support and haven't found one I do support yet ... Though I may make an exception to try and get rid of every incumbent I can (but not quite yet decided on that) ...

Generally, I just vote on propositions or amendments et al. ...
 
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Thanks for responding! You know, it's funny--I feel like I run into so many libertarians these days, it's strange that they're not yet an equal party in all this.

Yes, in college I was registered Republican for voting purposes... I changed over to Democrat so I could vote in the primaries. (Voted for Hillary, actually! But I think I'm ultimately glad that Obama won. Still kinda wonder how things would've worked out with her, though...)
 
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Foreign policy is #1 for me because that's where wars occur or get averted.

#2 is economy. I'm mostly a libertarian and would prefer the government to back off. I also believe a better and more globalized economy makes war less likely. And that a better economy fosters better civil rights and social justice and keeps the country more stable.

#2 is civil rights. I prefer to keep religion out of government and to extend full citizenry to all citizens.

#2 is character. Since no candidates ever satisfy me, I vote for ones who appear to have better character, even if I disagree with them on whatever.

(And if there were ever an Animal Rights candidate, I'd vote for them regardless of what else they stood for.)
Are you against war for social reasons, economic reasons, or both, if you don't mind me asking?

Also--and this is to anyone who wants to answer: Would you prefer a candidate who does what voters in his district mostly want him to do, or a candidate who votes based on his own conscience, even when that deviates from the voters' wills? I mean, is his loyalty to his voters or to his own sense of morality?
 
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