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Can_I_just_be_Jo is offline Can_I_just_be_Jo Post #31  July 30,2010, 6:24pm

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If so, then every corporate bankruptcy should make you angry.

The fact that this is in place negates all other negative claims of redistribution as being selective and arbitrary.
I actually hate all bankruptcies. It allows for bad behavior.
 
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chawks64 is offline chawks64 Post #32  July 30,2010, 8:04pm
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Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
You have been on eHa how long? Haven't you seen countless people post here that have done nothing to help their situation, they have enough baggage to fill an entire self storage facility, they hate everything about the opposite sex, but they come on here with their questions of how eHa has failed them. They pay for this service and darn it! it should just find them someone who won't run!
Made me snort-laugh. Too true!

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If I could wave a magic wand and make welfare go away I would. Not because of the money it would save the government but the human capital that is being wasted. I don't even want to think about how many great minds may have been beaten down by that system to believe that making babies is their lot in life. Liberal politicians (better?) seem to think that the fix is throw more money at them. They need real people with real solutions. They need good teachers that show examples to the students, they need mentors that give a care. Learned helplessness is very difficult to fix.
I see this a lot when I'm working in certain neighborhoods. It's just accepted that you'll take what you are given, and if that's not enough, then you'll take what you need. Getting above and beyond the mentality isn't looked at as an option and can even be seen as a betrayal. And this goes across the board, not just one group of people.

Here in Nevada we have the Millenium scholarship. If you get (I believe) a B average in a Nevada high school, you are given free college tuition. No, really. Completely free. Until you get your 4 -year degree. But a lot of people don't use it.

It's the old "teach a man to fish" thing. I can't force anyone to care. I can feed them for a day or I can try to teach them to feed themselves, but I can't make them want to learn or motivate them to bait that hook.

Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
You want ethical business then don't bail the darn fools out. Let them lose their businesses, a little creative destruction would be fun to watch. The beauty of creative destruction is that the unethical fail and the ethical remain strong and by up the good bits of the ones that fail. They become stronger. In theory it rewards ethical behavior. I say in theory since we didn't let anyone fail.
From my viewpoint, I always felt Capitalism was supposed to be like "survival of the fittest" or financial evolution. Only we don't really let it play out that way, so the unhealthy businesses stick around indefinitely and we bail them out. What a waste.
 
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From my viewpoint, I always felt Capitalism was supposed to be like "survival of the fittest" or financial evolution. Only we don't really let it play out that way, so the unhealthy businesses stick around indefinitely and we bail them out. What a waste.
That puts us in a tough spot since it hasn't been for well over a hundred years.

(Possibly since the origin of our nation...though it is hard to compare the situations & how they played out. But similar premise I would imagine.)
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Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
So my question is simple, how does this help the little guy who could barely afford the minimum before?
I think it helps to teach them, "Don't buy carp you can't afford." If you are poor (can't afford a $15/month payment) and have credit cards you should probably rethink your financial strategy. Just a thought.
 
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