bigfincat is offline bigfincat Post #1  July 27,2010, 3:47pm
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I am wondering if a few of the right wing radio hosts were partying together today.

The bonehead arguments were just flying.

Rush Limbaugh stating that the oil in the Gulf is only minimal damage is a classic.

Also that BP was shaken down for the 20 billion because it won't cost that much to clean it. Hah. Totally oblivious.

On top of that: He states that the oil in the Gulf is "mother nature" & is fine! ....as if the ocean floor was going to open up & millions of gallons of oil were going to spontaneously arise? Yeah. A natural occurrence!

Then we have a conversation between Fred & Jerry Thompson & Hannity about taxes.

Jerry states that it is absurd to refer to a couple that is earning $251,000 per year as being RICH. (The two b00bs agreed.)

Talk about being out of touch!

How do they still retain credibility with their audience?
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The AM dial has become the province for extremists on both sides, though the right does seem to have a greater number of them in that space. Limbaugh and his ilk have a long and distinguished history of making some downright ridiculous pronouncements. The troublesome part of that is that so many people actually buy into that mentality.
 
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jayjay is offline jayjay Post #3  July 28,2010, 5:18pm
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...things seem to have gotten quiet around here.

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bigfincat wrote :
Jerry states that it is absurd to refer to a couple that is earning $251,000 per year as being RICH. (The two b00bs agreed.)
I wouldn't consider a couple earning that amount to be rich. I'd think of them as upper middle class. But maybe I'm just out of touch.
 
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jayjay wrote :
I wouldn't consider a couple earning that amount to be rich. I'd think of them as upper middle class. But maybe I'm just out of touch.

Me either, especially a couple earning that together.
 
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jayjay wrote :
I wouldn't consider a couple earning that amount to be rich. I'd think of them as upper middle class. But maybe I'm just out of touch.
By your threshold the term "rich" would only apply to the tiniest percentage of the population.

To me, rich is a matter of relativity.

That number certainly amounts to more riches than an amazing amount of the country & the world.

I don't think that they are swimming in money but to not know that they are rich when being in that situation is being out of touch with the people that are surrounding them.
 
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Off topic, slightly...but Obama and company are going to have to dip a lot further down into lower income levels to come close to widdling down the national debt. Going to have to gouge the middle and lower middle class as well.
 
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suzyque wrote :
Off topic, slightly...but Obama and company are going to have to dip a lot further down into lower income levels to come close to widdling down the national debt. Going to have to gouge the middle and lower middle class as well.
There is no doubt in my mind that the administration's long term policies would yield more individuals earning 6 figures than do at the present. i.e. strengthening the middle class in $$ and in numbers. The policy promotes more branching off into separate companies. Also hiring & internal investment when it makes sense in relation to tax liability.

Our future is going to be one that will include a more varied road to success.

We should embrace that as it is more in line with freedom.
 
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suzyque wrote :
Me either, especially a couple earning that together.
One single person earning earning 126K is well off but not rich.

When you double that for a single household that boosts both individuals into a different class.

I am pretty sure that most individuals that earn 126K would feel rich if their yearly household income instantly doubled.
 
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One single person earning earning 126K is well off but not rich.

When you double that for a single household that boosts both individuals into a different class.

I am pretty sure that most individuals that earn 126K would feel rich if their yearly household income instantly doubled.
First off on the oil spill that can't find the oil to clean it up. Sounds to me like that may have it under control.

Second as far as the income doubling with a couple how do you see the expenses going down to the expenses of one? The only expenses that would be cut in half is the cost of the home. Utilities decrease but are not halved. Then in taxes the deductions are not doubled they are still capped at the same level. In the end you have no more as two people at 250,000 as two different people at 125,000.
 
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Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
First off on the oil spill that can't find the oil to clean it up. Sounds to me like that may have it under control.

Second as far as the income doubling with a couple how do you see the expenses going down to the expenses of one? The only expenses that would be cut in half is the cost of the home. Utilities decrease but are not halved. Then in taxes the deductions are not doubled they are still capped at the same level. In the end you have no more as two people at 250,000 as two different people at 125,000.
As far as the oil goes...that is just not accurate. That idea is being misinterpreted. You can't see it when you are on a boat because you are on the same level of it. Everything looks the same when you look out across the ocean.

It can be seen from a bird's eye view which is why they are using support from the air.

The fact that it is harder to skim makes it all the MORE expensive. If BP is actually going to pay for the clean-up then they would have spend years paying for the ship & crew as well as even find better ways to accumulate it or separate....otherwise they are in fact not cleaning it. They are just OK with the fact that the damage is done so others should just deal with it.

If you were to ask the people living on or visiting the coast if they see oil I am quite certain that you would be hard pressed to find many that would agree with you that there is no monster mess on their hands.

How much would it cost you to rent a ship the size of the ones used by the Coast Guard along with a sizable crew to work in 120 plus degree temperatures?

I think that if you went to your nearest beach & smelled an extremely noxious & toxic smell (one in which could make you sick if you were sailing over it.)you would not think that the smell signified something minimal.

As far as household income goes... your math makes no sense.

A distinction is completely evident when you compare a household that earns 251 K to that which earns 126 K. The 2 are not remotely equal.... also a couple or individuals earning that much would typically have an enormous cost related to housing or even accommodations when travelling. That alone is very, very significant.
 
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