If Asked, Could You Clearly Explain Your Political Preference?


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j0hn8andy is offline j0hn8andy Post #11  March 20,2010, 8:06am
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meri75 wrote :

The fine is $20 and if I don't pay it, then I may have prosecution proceedings instigated against me. If it goes to court, and I am found guilty, I will be fined $50 and have to pay the court costs.


We have an Electoral Roll here. Once you turn 18, you have to register and every time you change address, you have to update the Electoral Roll. If you are not registered on the Electoral Roll, the Government can still track you via Centrelink, ATO (Aussie Taxation Office).
It's interesting that in this country, it used to be only "men of property" that could vote. Now everybody can vote, but many don't.

I was always registered Democrat. First husband was Libertarian (conservative in a back-to-basics sort of way). Second was Republican.

During our last move, we both registered our respective parties. The first election, he got his election material, I never did.

Turns out the Democrats "forgot" to follow through on my registration. It cost me my vote. First time ever I didn't vote.

I was so mad, I registered Republican. Been voting ever since.

I register a "major" party, because in California the primaries are not "open". I don't see that changing; Democrats "own" this state.

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I only declared party affiliation because I had to (mutter). Even though I know that what the candidates say during elections is all blather, grandstanding, and absolute carp, I research and go with the one that best suits my personal beliefs. It's getting harder and harder to believe any of them, but if I don't vote, I can't complain I like being able to complain about them and the state of chaos they have created!
 
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Msswele wrote :
How stupid can our government get? Protect us from enemies without and keep the peace within, clean the water and provide a system of rational justice, but don't play God with individual lives.
I'm Australian, so I'm a bit confused by your point here. Is the government, the Party which is in power, elected by the people? If so, when the next Election date rolls around, do you usually see a swing of favour to one of the Opposition Parties instead?
 
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Quiomissssssoo wrote :
Liberal Democrat, because I believe human beings are entitled to a certain level of exsistence because they are human beings.
I like this line of thinking and I believe it is a common underlying theme with the LPA. I think where it fails (at least in Australia) is the government's ability to put quality controls in place to ensure it is not abused.

For example, last time LPA was in power the Baby Bonus was introduced. Yup - you received a lump sum payment, or if you were under a certain age, the payment would be spaced out in instalments. I thought, and still do, it is a waste of our money which could be better spent on things such as ensuring we have enough medical staff so that Elective Surgical procedures don't become Emergency Surgical procedures due to an unreasonable waiting period.
 
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To the original question, yes. Yes I could.

My political preference will never be elected. How many Anarchists of my particular stripe ever get elected? *grin* Meri, I usually end up getting weird looks when I say things like "The only one responsible for your actions is you... The rest of the world can't be responsible *for* you!" So I hardly ever say things like that.

Instead, I say things like "You think *all* rich people are evil? Don't you want to be rich, too?" *grin* I still get strange looks, but sometimes people begin to think, too...
Perhaps we are intellectual twins! lol The bolded part, I say this at work on a fairly regular basis to my staff and colleagues.
 
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j0hn8andy wrote :
It's interesting that in this country, it used to be only "men of property" that could vote. Now everybody can vote, but many don't.

I was always registered Democrat. First husband was Libertarian (conservative in a back-to-basics sort of way). Second was Republican.

During our last move, we both registered our respective parties. The first election, he got his election material, I never did.

Turns out the Democrats "forgot" to follow through on my registration. It cost me my vote. First time ever I didn't vote.

I was so mad, I registered Republican. Been voting ever since.

I register a "major" party, because in California the primaries are not "open". I don't see that changing; Democrats "own" this state.

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We really have two main Parties here, the LPA and the ALP (Australian Labour Party, though I think they spell it Labor).

We also have the Coalition, which is a tad confusing because it is the LPA and the NPA (National Party of Australia), partnership. Of the Coalition, the LPA is the stronger Party, so if they win government, usually the LPA Party Candidate will assume Premiership (State Government) or Prime Minister (Federal Government).

Then we have a whole bunch of smaller Parties, of which the Australian Green Party is starting to make some serious inroads to Seats previously held by ALP or LPA members. Interesting.

The vote count is yet to complete, but it does already look like LPA is back in State Government! The preference votes are yet to be counted, that may take a few weeks.
 
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vegaschick wrote :
I only declared party affiliation because I had to (mutter). Even though I know that what the candidates say during elections is all blather, grandstanding, and absolute carp, I research and go with the one that best suits my personal beliefs. It's getting harder and harder to believe any of them, but if I don't vote, I can't complain I like being able to complain about them and the state of chaos they have created!
Wow! I've certainly experienced instances where during the campaign, the Party presents what they will do if elected and usually something does not go ahead when they gain government. Grandstanding advertising and/or campaign approaches are generally pulled here. If they are not, the backlash by the Media is pretty strong.
 
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Quiomissssssoo wrote :
Liberal Democrat, because I believe human beings are entitled to a certain level of exsistence because they are human beings.
meri75 wrote :
I like this line of thinking
I was going to let it pass the first time I read it, but I don't like that line of thinking.

To me (the use of the word because as in a natural progression) it almost seems to imply that Conservative Republicans do not "believe human beings are entitled to a certain level of existence because they are human beings".

Any "line of thinking" that allows one to make blanket sweeping statements that by implication cause others to be seen as incapable of compassion, and perhaps even viewed with disdain and contempt.....do nothing to foster understanding and discussion among people, IMHO.

Of course, I am registered Republican now.....and was married to a Libertarian and a Republican.....even when I was a "Liberal Democrat".

So I could be a little biased.....but that's the way I see it.

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meri75 wrote :
I'm Australian, so I'm a bit confused by your point here. Is the government, the Party which is in power, elected by the people? If so, when the next Election date rolls around, do you usually see a swing of favour to one of the Opposition Parties instead?

The US usually does not have a single primary party, due to the president, the congress, the court appointees, and the regulatory appointees all being potentially from different vintage.

Also, for most US voters, their vote is close to meaningless: due to the nature of how votes are counted by region, only a few states really have any uncertainty as to the outcome of a presidential race.

In the US House of representitives, the districts are designed to encompass communities of majority-black population, in order to ensure that some blacks would win house elections. Concordantly, adjascent districts are often disproportunately white. About 80% of Congressinal elections are decided by 60% or greater majorities.

Here, the two main parties get nearly all the votes, and nearly all the media attention.
 
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Yah, I can explain my political party:

Sitting next to the beach, with a pint of a nice Belgian brew, playing my guitar. What party is that again?
 
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