Why is Healthcare such a big deal anyway?


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rsdntwzrd is offline rsdntwzrd Post #91  March 26,2010, 5:31pm
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Caution: The last bit gets a little soapboxish

I think everyone dislikes lazy, non-productive (by choice), whiny, self centered individuals...these are the people that should not be able to be eligible for any sort of help or free ride in any way shape or form. That said, how do you define, discover, weed-out, or justify who these folks are, I mean think about it in a real world kind of way (not in the "believe and behave the way I do or get out of ""my"" country). I was invited to visit Viet Nam by our government in 1968. I witnessed and was exposed to things (I was a Military Police Sargent) that no one at any age or position should have. During the next forty years I went through many jobs, relationships and four marriages that ended in divorce. Finally, in 2006, after being unemployed and unemployable for five years, as I signed up for VA benefits (which I put off doing for years because I did not want to be perceived as a leech or one of "those" people), I was immediately found to be suffering from PTSD (look it up I'm not going to explain). Through personal involvement, lots of therapy, and support from my family and the few friends I had leftI was able to accept that those forty years had been (for lack of a better word, but not my first choice) had been taken from me because of a few months when I was 20 years old.

Because still not employed, I have been in the VA health care system and I believe it rivals the finest plans in the world. It should have been the model for the health care bill and system. No, it isn't perfect but it takes a much more broad based and human oriented approach to health care. If you can pay or if you have insurance then you (and they) do the money dance. If you don't (you'd be surprised at the number of vets on the streets and homeless) then you don't.

My point is (I know I took the long way around the barn to get to the front door) we had a viable model and it wasn't ever, EVER on any body's radar. The "public servants" (what a joke that title has turned out to be) were too busy with posturing, performing and looking to advance their own position, influence and sense of importance, to actually think about what was going on. Certain groups were too committed to making other groups look bad, and/or powerless. The group being attacked was totally (sort of) committed to pass something at any cost (not a completely bad thing). The upshot was that there was no thought, no consideration, no opening their eyes to the real world and no discussion about what the >>American people
 
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vmkh is offline vmkh Post #92  April 10,2010, 3:49am
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Saulgoode said:

There aren't ethical reasons, don't argue that. If you think anything in our federal gov't is done out of "goodwill," then you are naive.

Saul, what do you think of Social Security and Medicare and of the millions of people who benefit and depend on them?

Private Health Insurance companies are businesses and businesses exist to make profit.

I would assume you are employed and happy with your insurance coverage. I am employed and have insurance coverage. So, we both help the insurance companies make their annual billion profit$.

You mentioned the word "ethical". I like that word. In your ethics, do 30 million people without health insurance matter? Where is the ethics in the billion dollar profits made from the misery of sick people?

When the uninsured get sick, they go to the hospital too. Their unpaid bills become bad debts and are passed on to you and me. We are already paying for them in our insurance premiums.

The legislative branch alone of our Federal Government alone is composed of 100 senators and a few hundreds of congressmen. So, we have a few hundred opinions on how to run our government. Add to that your own and my opinion on how to run a government.

In your smaller groups: family, business, place of work do you get 100% agreement on anything? We live in a 51% society.

I think you are one those idealists looking for a "perfect" system. That's what I would call naive.
 
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