Late 30s, Conservative, white male (aka, I'm a raging right-wing neo-bigot). I'm from Texas, too, which I suppose means I have a tree out back, know what I mean, hyut hyut hyut.

FDR and Clinton come to mind, both Socialists.

FDR did a lot of horrible things during the GD. I kinda wish I'd been alive to see what really happened, but all I have are the history books, which get re-written every couple of years.

I recall FDR slaughtering pigs to drive up the price of pork.

The Hog Reduction Program of the AAA

I also know that any guy who'd risk full-on dictatorship against the American people, by ignoring Washington's precedent of two terms and no more, and implement government control over so much of our industry, and who was such a glaring master at manipulating our media into the propaganda machine it is today, is someone who had some bad things on his mind. He ran a near totalorarian government, backed by a rising media propaganda engine, and socialized a good part of our soil.

And Obama's playing right from the FDR handbook.

Clinton, well, I blame him entirely for this economic mess we're in. Last time the Dems controlled all three houses, they passed all that sub-prime stuff, which weakened the banks enough that the media (as FDR taught us) could press us into a near-collapse last year, catapult the Dems into office via panic-votes, and then O could sweep in and take over our financial institutions with the Fed. As a bonus, the government and the unions now own our auto industry.

Thanks, Clinton! One small step for a man, one huge step for Socialism.

I'd keep the arguments relative to the 20th/21st centuries. No sense going back to the Civil War to look for bad presidents. The history books are so cluttered by now that who in h.ell knows what really happened back then.


- Saul

FDR. I'm not allowed to post my response, as the mods don't think it's appropriate. It may or may not show up one day.


- Saul