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Rand_011 is offline Rand_011 Post #11  September 21,2009, 11:13am
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My vote is for Obama as worst president ... Big decidng factor being that it appears that his goal is to put my family and I out of work ... His politics simply justify my decision.
 
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Gooosh, wouldn't it be a tie between Warren G. Harding and Andrew Jackson. I also feel t odd that two of the most brilliant men to hold office Nixon and Carter get such a bad rap.
 
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legend29 is offline legend29 Post #13  September 21,2009, 4:59pm
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Hands down...Martin Van Buren because he was "a key organizer of the Democratic Party and the Second Party System"...(wikipedia.com)

Sorry to all my friends that are Democrats...just felt like being 'cheek-ish' tonight!
 
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Fleuellen wrote :
Gooosh, wouldn't it be a tie between Warren G. Harding and Andrew Jackson. I also feel t odd that two of the most brilliant men to hold office Nixon and Carter get such a bad rap.
Yes, I'd agree completely here!
 
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Andrew Jackson killed the bank

I'd have to say Nixon, Hoover, FDR.
 
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dito is offline dito Post #16  September 22,2009, 6:04am
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Bush is definitely up there as the worst and the current president is continuing the same policies so that's that.
 
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ming_on_mongo wrote :
60-something, Independent/Progressive:

Geez, is there really any doubt?! "Dubya" (a.k.a. "the Decider") has to be the worst, even despite a fanatical minority of Right Wing "true believers" trying to re-write history or pretend he never existed (so much for the party of "personal responsibility"! ). So now black is white, and up is down!

This country will still be digging itself out of the Bush Administration's malfeasance & incompetence for years to come ("Mission accomplished, Great job, Georgie!"). Besides all the reasons already mentioned, let's not forget the divisive "culture wars" ("I'm a uniter not a divider!"), turning traditional GOP moderation into a refuge for bigoted nut-jobs, Abu Graib & all the depravity of torture (giving a worldwide boost to terrorist recruiting), cravenly ignoring the constitutional separation of church & state, and inheriting a record $236 billion surplus from Clinton, yet leaving with a deficit of over a trillion dollars. There are so many more, but let's not forget the biggest.... 9/11 (arguably the country's worst tragedy), which happened on his watch, despite graphic intelligence warnings he ignored!!

Oh yeah, and "Osama Bin Laden" (remember him...?)!

You can blame Bin Laden on Clinton. They had a clear drone shot on him and Clinton wouldn't approve the order.
 
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ming_on_mongo is offline ming_on_mongo Post #18  September 23,2009, 4:53pm
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hazmat wrote :
You can blame Bin Laden on Clinton. They had a clear drone shot on him and Clinton wouldn't approve the order.
So what's Dubya's excuse?

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
 
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ming_on_mongo wrote :
So what's Dubya's excuse?

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
And to put your snippet in context ...

Well, as I say, we haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban.



But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became -- we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. And if we -- excuse me for a minute -- and if we find a training camp, we'll take care of it. Either we will or our friends will. That's one of the things -- part of the new phase that's becoming apparent to the American people is that we're working closely with other governments to deny sanctuary, or training, or a place to hide, or a place to raise money.

And we've got more work to do. See, that's the thing the American people have got to understand, that we've only been at this six months. This is going to be a long struggle. I keep saying that; I don't know whether you all believe me or not. But time will show you that it's going to take a long time to achieve this objective. And I can assure you, I am not going to blink. And I'm not going to get tired. Because I know what is at stake. And history has called us to action, and I am going to seize this moment for the good of the world, for peace in the world and for freedom.
 
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ming_on_mongo wrote :
So what's Dubya's excuse?

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02


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