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lizard47 is offline lizard47 Post #1  January 28,2009, 3:59pm
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Since that term has been brought up lately I was wondering if anyone wanted to comment on what is happening in MN.
[*]Every major Minnesota newspaper has agreed that the election is not over until the Election Contest is over. The state's largest newspaper, the Minneapolis Star Tribune ,stated: "Coleman is justified in going to court. . . . Both Franken and Coleman should want court-ordered answers to questions that the Canvassing Board could not answer." [*]In its initial review of a few issues in front of the Canvassing Board, The Minnesota Supreme Court specifically deferred several significant issues during the recount to the Election Contest judicial panel including the issue of double counted ballots. [*]Even Franken in December was arguing that some issues such as double counting and wrongly rejected absent were issues for the courts during an Election Contest. [*]The manual of the Soros-ACORN backed Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie's office on how to conduct a recount plainly states a Minnesota recount cannot address all issues. "This is an administrative recount held pursuant to M.S. 204C.35 and M.R. 8235. It is not to determine who was eligible to vote. It is not to determine if campaign laws were violated. It is not to determine if absentee ballots were properly accepted. It is not - except for the recounting the ballots - to determine if judges did things right. It is simply to physically recount the ballots for this race!" [/list]




And Franken because he has not been seated, has filed suit, claiming that Minnesota law does not apply to a Minnesota Senate race - if you can believe that!
 
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Franken is an unfunny, ugly, mean-spirited, useless hack. If it weren't for the numbers game I'd say let him loose in the Senate. Who deserves him more?
 
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Funny how no one who likes to talk about "stolen elections" wants to comment on this at all.


 
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I just don't understand your point. Neither man has been seated as Senator yet, and won't be until legal issues are resolved. Both Coleman and Franken are doing everything they can possibly think of to tip the balance in their favor (including legal challenges on both sides). How has an election been "stolen"?


 
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Taken from the Wall Street Journal


It’s not unusual that state officials, in double-checking the initial election results, would find and fix errors. What is unusual is that nearly every “fix” has gone in favor of Franken.


In one case, Minnesota’s director of elections announced on Friday, three days after the election, that she had forgotten to count 32 absentee ballots in her car.


In Two Harbors, a liberal outpost near Duluth, Franken picked up an additional 246 votes, while none of the other contests in that precinct recorded any changes in their vote total.


The newspaper notes that the post-election process is being overseen by Democratic Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, an ally of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), “of fraudulent voter-registration fame.”


Franken and fellow Democrats are now pushing to turn what should be a straightforward recount of existing legal ballots into a “complete do-over,” pressuring election officials into accepting tossed ballots, according to The Journal, which concludes:


“With their party only three Senate seats from the 60 needed to break a filibuster (and two still not decided), Democrats have a political incentive to cut corners to steal a seat if they can get away with it…


“If Minnesota wants to retain its reputation as a state with clean elections, it needs to run an honest recount.”
 
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WASHINGTON -- It's no joke: Senate Democrats are moving toward letting comedian Al Franken join the chamber while Republican Norm Coleman's election lawsuit is pending.


"We're going to try to seat Al Franken," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told reporters on Wednesday, a few hours before he posed with Franken for photos just off the Senate floor. "There's not a question in anyone's mind, an assertion by anyone, that there's been any fraud or wrongdoing in this election."


Coleman's lawyers are challenging the results of the election and the re-count in a trial set to begin in state district court on Monday. A three-judge panel that will hear the case is considering Franken's argument to dismiss it altogether.
 
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It's also great that he wants to be the Senator representing MN, but feels that their election laws do not apply to him.


Just like filing taxes in CA from 2003-2007 and I think there were 16 other states he owed tax money to also. Plus he failed to pay Worker Comp insurance in New York. OK, so it is not fair to bring up his tax woes.


 
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That's an opinion piece (published 11/12/08), not a news article. Can you cite some additional (legitimate) sources that actually provide documented evidence of malfeasance?
 
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This is a fact:


In one case, Minnesota’s director of elections announced on Friday, three days after the election, that she had forgotten to count 32 absentee ballots in her car.


This is a fact:


In Two Harbors, a liberal outpost near Duluth, Franken picked up an additional 246 votes, while none of the other contests in that precinct recorded any changes in their vote total.


 
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But, what do those facts show? Where is the evidence in those facts of voter fraud or fraud in counting votes?
 
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