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My chief criticism of the republican party is that they play far too nice with the democrat party. An example is how the pubs went in for power sharing when they were the majority, but the dems are doing no such thing. The democrats don't believe in playing nice; they believe in victory, and well they should. That philosophy will serve them much better than the spinelessness one observes in the republican party.


If the goal is to sink the opposition, it would be wise to note that you're sharing the same boat ...
Yeah...how about both sides rowing together, so that the ship doesn't go in circles?
 
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ThePriestess,469666 wrote :

jamesp81,468789 wrote :


My chief criticism of the republican party is that they play far too nice with the democrat party. An example is how the pubs went in for power sharing when they were the majority, but the dems are doing no such thing. The democrats don't believe in playing nice; they believe in victory, and well they should. That philosophy will serve them much better than the spinelessness one observes in the republican party.


If the goal is to sink the opposition, it would be wise to note that you're sharing the same boat ...
Actually it's the left that wants to sink the boat that is America and rebuild it as something new. I'm simply trying to repel boarders
 
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ThePriestess,469666 wrote :

jamesp81,468789 wrote :


My chief criticism of the republican party is that they play far too nice with the democrat party. An example is how the pubs went in for power sharing when they were the majority, but the dems are doing no such thing. The democrats don't believe in playing nice; they believe in victory, and well they should. That philosophy will serve them much better than the spinelessness one observes in the republican party.


If the goal is to sink the opposition, it would be wise to note that you're sharing the same boat ...
On a more serious note, your entire premise if fatally flawed. If the success of the republic was dependent on the survival of a political party, you'd have a point. However, the republic doesn't live or die by whether the democrats or the republicans succeed or fail. Neither the democrat nor republican parties are institutions necessary to the survival and prosperity of the republic.
 
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graceventually,469845 wrote :

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jamesp81,468789 wrote :


My chief criticism of the republican party is that they play far too nice with the democrat party. An example is how the pubs went in for power sharing when they were the majority, but the dems are doing no such thing. The democrats don't believe in playing nice; they believe in victory, and well they should. That philosophy will serve them much better than the spinelessness one observes in the republican party.


If the goal is to sink the opposition, it would be wise to note that you're sharing the same boat ...


Yeah...how about both sides rowing together, so that the ship doesn't go in circles?
See above posts.


Additionally, the problem isn't the two sides rowing together. The problem is that one side is rowing us off a waterfall and the other is at least giving lip service to preventing that.
 
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On a more serious note, your entire premise if fatally flawed. If the success of the republic was dependent on the survival of a political party, you'd have a point.
Did I say anything about political parties?
 
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graceventually,468578 wrote :

I've noticed that too, zana....I am wondering if one or two of our rabble rousers have left us? Voluntarily or involuntarily, I do not know.....


It's interesting how political perceptions color our perceptions of stories. I see Robin Hood more the way you do, so it's definitely not an Australia "thing" - I've never even been to your beautiful country!
Hopefully the rabble rousers left voluntarily, as they had nothing more to stir up for no reason


You should definitely come to Oz.... the pic in my profile was taken at one of the beautiful tropical islands that are on the Whitsunday coast.... the Great Barrier Reef -- such a beautiful part of this country...
 
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Equality between the rich and the poor ... I am not going to get into that discussion ... that would be a never ending debate and do a bit of derailing in the process


I don't view Robin Hood as being a right-leaner ... But neither do I view it as taking money from the rich to give to the poor (case against being him marrying the princess and becoming very wealthy) as being a left-leaner ...


Though I am curious ... If you've read Atlas Shrugged ... How do you view Ragnar Danneskjold? Is he a liberal hero or a demon?
Yeah I know.... I realised that I was probably opening up a potential heated discussion with the "equality for rich and poor" -- maybe we can leave that for another thread :P


I havent read Atlas Shrugged - never even heard of it.... but, I did look it up.... and from first impression, on what I read about Ragnar Danneskjold - he seems like a liberal hero with some major demons.... I cant give any other opinion other than that from what I read, other than he seems like a complex character and I could only say more if I read the entire (long) novel....


How do you see him? Assuming you have read the book?
 
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ThePriestess,470428 wrote :

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On a more serious note, your entire premise if fatally flawed. If the success of the republic was dependent on the survival of a political party, you'd have a point.


Did I say anything about political parties?
Yes, you did, essentially. My post heavily referenced both political parties and my intent to oppose the democrats / left in any way possible, to which you replied that I should be aware if I'm sinking the opposition, that I'm in the same boat. I named the democrats / left as the opposition. You seem to tacitly agree with that, so yes, you did say something about political parties. Perhaps it was mistake on your part.
 
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My thoughts on this...


The left are more concerned with social issues, such as poverty, healthcare, education, etc and they tend to be more embracing of all people from all parts of life, whether they are poor, rich (maybe not as much :P), black, white, Asian, African, European, etc


The left are generally less concerned with class or stature. They tend to be less racist and and more concerned about the welfare of all.


The right are more concerned with wealth accummulation, security (their own and their country), economic stability (their own and their country) and ability to earn as much as they can to make their life as comfortable as possible.


The right are generally more concerned with class and stature. They tend to be more racist (especially the further right you get) and less concerned about the welfare of others not directly related to them.
With much respect, I'm a former feminists Student leader in the 80s. Propaganda and false rumors affect both left and right. You are a fair balanced woman. I'm a Political Independent. Each issue I take on alone. For example-abortion. Imho, it's a woman's body so I let them decide. But when I see Nazis develop, it is my duty as a Citizen to warn the people that this has happened before in history.


You cannot appease a Nazi. I'm not calling you that Zana. I have no problem with some social issues or Liberalistic ideas. But when done unfairly, they are just like some alleged crazy extreme right wingers. Whom I favor but that's another story...
 
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zana, wrote :


My thoughts on this...


The left are more concerned with social issues, such as poverty, healthcare, education, etc and they tend to be more embracing of all people from all parts of life, whether they are poor, rich (maybe not as much :P), black, white, Asian, African, European, etc


The left are generally less concerned with class or stature. They tend to be less racist and and more concerned about the welfare of all.


The right are more concerned with wealth accummulation, security (their own and their country), economic stability (their own and their country) and ability to earn as much as they can to make their life as comfortable as possible.


The right are generally more concerned with class and stature. They tend to be more racist (especially the further right you get) and less concerned about the welfare of others not directly related to them.


With much respect, I'm a former feminists Student leader in the 80s. Propaganda and false rumors affect both left and right. You are a fair balanced woman. I'm a Political Independent. Each issue I take on alone. For example-abortion. Imho, it's a woman's body so I let them decide. But when I see Nazis develop, it is my duty as a Citizen to warn the people that this has happened before in history.


You cannot appease a Nazi. I'm not calling you that Zana. I have no problem with some social issues or Liberalistic ideas. But when done unfairly, they are just like some alleged crazy extreme right wingers. Whom I favor but that's another story...
 
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