Luminous_Knight is offline Luminous_Knight Post #11  July 17,2010, 10:25am
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I do agree with your point about eating whole foods - though I disagree on the chocolate front. REAL chocolate (70% or higher cocoa content; I like the 85% stuff) is very filling/satisfying in very small portions. The problem is when people confuse that with corner store candy bars.
They've started to make chocolate out of stevia (zero calorie NATURAL sweetener). Good times ahead. Though avoid synthetic sweeteners like aspartame, sucralose/Splenda....they're poisons.

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1500 calories a day is pretty much what I can eat to simply maintain my weight. To lose weight I have to eat even fewer.
 
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1500 calories a day is pretty much what I can eat to simply maintain my weight. To lose weight I have to eat even fewer.
I used to think the same. I have usually been pretty good about mentally counting calories. Due to some recent life humps, I gained a couple of pounds. Nothing serious but was having a tougher time than usual getting it off. I bought a calorie counting book to track my progress. In other words, I really tightened down the hatch with my goals, measurements, weight record and calorie record.

I was doing really well and decided to drop my calories down around 1000-1200 for 3 days over a weekend for some quick progress. It worked well. Until about Wednesday of the following week. I ate everything in sight, I just couldn't control it. I was so hungry. Finally I just gave up. But I definitley realized that I did cross that boundary where eating too little became counter productive.

I think for me I need to eat around 1700 calories + on days I excercise and I can keep it around 1400 - 1600 on leaner days but not for an extended period or I'm gonna go eating everything in site again a few days later!

When I was a teenager I dropped about 30 pounds in a summer. I ate 1000 calories a day and excercised a lot on my bike. When I look back on it though.... I probably wasn't calculating my calories right. I didn't measure my servings and was probably eating a lot more than I had figured. Because when I try to do it as an adult 1000 calories a day just doesn't last very long, I physically can't do it for an extended period.
 
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cp30 wrote :
I used to think the same. I have usually been pretty good about mentally counting calories. Due to some recent life humps, I gained a couple of pounds. Nothing serious but was having a tougher time than usual getting it off. I bought a calorie counting book to track my progress. In other words, I really tightened down the hatch with my goals, measurements, weight record and calorie record.

I was doing really well and decided to drop my calories down around 1000-1200 for 3 days over a weekend for some quick progress. It worked well. Until about Wednesday of the following week. I ate everything in sight, I just couldn't control it. I was so hungry. Finally I just gave up. But I definitley realized that I did cross that boundary where eating too little became counter productive.

I think for me I need to eat around 1700 calories + on days I excercise and I can keep it around 1400 - 1600 on leaner days but not for an extended period or I'm gonna go eating everything in site again a few days later!

When I was a teenager I dropped about 30 pounds in a summer. I ate 1000 calories a day and excercised a lot on my bike. When I look back on it though.... I probably wasn't calculating my calories right. I didn't measure my servings and was probably eating a lot more than I had figured. Because when I try to do it as an adult 1000 calories a day just doesn't last very long, I physically can't do it for an extended period.
i've had that same experience, trying to lose weight too fast- it's much better to lose it more slowly and eat more.

JayJay- are you serious, 1500 calories? that's very low for a guy, isn't it, unless you aren't working out
 
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1500 calories is *very* low for a man to maintain on. Are you sure you're including drinks in your calories?

As for the the low-fat advice, I strongly disagree. The low-fat movement is a big part of why North Americans are getting heavier. Fat makes you feel full (along with fibre and protein). People on low-fat diets are at much higher risk of binging due to hunger. It would be better to recommend that people stay away from high-fat (and/or high-sugar) processed foods. But nuts, avocados, oily fish, vegetable oils, etc. are an important part of a diet that'll keep you feeling full enough to not overeat. Not to mention all the benefits to health and appearance (skin and hair look *much* better if you get enough fat in your diet).
 
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I find the most common mistake dieters at my gym seem to make is cutting too many calories and then trying to work out too hard at the gym. They can't sustain a viable workout that way. It's better to go slow, lose only a pound or two a week, so you can stick it out for the long haul.

This has a handy calculator to help you figure out where to set calories for losing weight at an appropriate rate. It also has several menu plans to help you plan out a week of 1500 calorie days. Might be useful for some.

What Does a 1,500 Calorie Day Look Like? | Eating Well
it seem to me that most of the calories come from carbs and too few carbs and a hard work out = low blood sugar = an unexpected rest on the floor. As a dibetic I am restrected to 60 grams of carbs a meal. I think that is for a 1500 calorie diet. My blood sugers have been running around 150 -170 latly. I need to get in more exercise to bring it down. Some one told me to walk as fast as I could for about 30 minits at lest three times a week. MY DR wanted me to lose 8 lbs, gads a person could verry that in a day. It took me about three to six months (can't remember how long) I lost about 18 pounds and my A1C came down to about 7.5 +/-. I walked the thrity minits every day.
 
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scarlet13 wrote :
i've had that same experience, trying to lose weight too fast- it's much better to lose it more slowly and eat more.

JayJay- are you serious, 1500 calories? that's very low for a guy, isn't it, unless you aren't working out
I thought I had the information to answer that but I could not find it but I did find this in a book called "Keeping well with diabetes Carb counting and Exching list." It is multiplacian factors to cuclate the amount of calories a person would need given their weight.
I well use w for weight
10x W for a person who is obese, very in active, or always dieting.
13 x W for a person who is older then 55, an active woman, or an inactive man.
15 xW for a very active woman or an inactive man.
20 x W for a very active manor an athlete.
so your statment is basicly corect if you are talking about a very inactive man who wsiges 150 pounds and is less then 55.
these figures will give you what a person needs to maintain their weight.
There are a lot of books out there for dieabitics that would be usefull to a person trying to control their weight.
 
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Everyone has their own idea what the best way to diet is. Just do what works for you. Maybe there are diets that are better than your own, but if what you're doing works for you and makes you happy, then stick with it.

As for me, I eat a lot of protein and even more carbs. I eat about 350-400 net carbs a day. I need to because I work out twice per day. I limit my fat intake to 40 grams per day. Sometimes I go over, but it really isn't that hard to stay under 40 grams with all the fat free and lowfat food out there. I even buy fat free cheese. My total caloric intake is usually between 2400-3000 per day, usually depending upon how much beer I drink. I lost 30 lbs in 3 months when I first started P90X.

I know no one really wants to hear the specifics of other peoples' diets and work outs, so I'll just throw out a few key pointers for anyone interested -

The workout isn't remotely as important as what you eat. You can not work out at all. Quite simply, if you eat less calories than what you burn, you WILL lose weight. However, someone that eats the same calories as you but eats healthier and has a better workout will look better than you.

Take all the food you normally eat in 3 meals and space it out over a minimum of 5. I eat 8 times per day.

Make breakfast your largest mealk of the day, dinner the smallest. It's okay to eat right before bed time, especially if it's high in protein. That's when your body repairs itself.

Water water water.

Regular pop/soda is better than diet. Diet drinks are sweet but have no nutritional value. When your brain senses that sweet tasting foods or drinks enter your body it immediately sends signals throughout your body to start digesting. Since there's no sugar in diet drinks there's nothing to digest. So what does your body do? It starts using up the sugar in your blood. This leads you to feeling lethargic. No one is immune to this. The next time you drink a Diet Coke, don't eat any food with it. 5 minutes after you're done, notice how your body feels. You feel a little slow, like you need to eat some food. This leads to sugar cravings and people over eat.

Drink something high in sugar after a work out. Your body is starved for it and needs it for the next work out. Some drinks are better than others, but even a Mountain Dew would be better than nothing because of how starved your body is for sugars, even fructose. It has been scientifically proven that a drink with a carb-to-protein ratio of 4:1 is the best thing to drink after a workout. Lowfat chocolate milk fits this perfectly.

Not too much alcohol. They do make low-calorie beer, but alcohol carbs are a separate category from regular carbs. They are stored as fat even quicker than fat itself.

Spicy food raises metabolism.

Omega 3 fats and olive oil are good fats that actually burn fat. I said earlier that I limit myself to 40 grams of fat per day. Almost all of that comes from fat burning fats in olive oil, fish, beans, and nuts.

Egg yolks contain essential vitamins and minerals that our bodies need.

Carbs are not your enemy. You need them for energy. Just be sure to eat the right carbs at the right time. Like I said earlier, even sugar is good at certain times.

For body builders, don't get caught up in a cycle of bulk, cut, bulk, cut. You can only naturally gain 1 pound of muscle per week max. So if you start out at 200 pounds and start eating tons of calories in an attempt to bulk up and gain 40 pounds, maybe 10 pounds of that is muscle. Then you have to cut 30 pounds of fat. Why not just eat right and slowly gain the 10 pounds of muscle without gaining the fat? Makes sense to me.
 
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