jayjay is offline jayjay Post #1  April 10,2010, 11:17am
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...things seem to have gotten quiet around here.

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There's a whole community of PUAs with their training materials, seminars etc. all designed to help men (of course) pick up women. There are PU gurus such as Mystery (who had a cable TV show about a year ago), David DeAngelo etc. I even suspect that one poster who showed up to post on this site irregularly about a year ago may have been one of these gurus. Who has read or knows anything about what these communities/gurus teach? What do you think of it?
 
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A fool and his money are soon parted.

Better to just be who you are, and work on that. If you feel you need to go out for "lessons," I think they are unlikely to be of help.
 
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I've heard of Mystery and am aware of some of the books out there but I've not read any. Don't seem to need to.
 
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I read the Tom Leykis thread, and I see David DeAngelo's ads out there. They both seem to promote being or acting a certain way, that you're not, (acting like a jerk). It probably works in the short term, to pick up women, get sex, and carry on a short term relationship, but I don't see it working in the long term. If you do meet, "the one", and it works out, then do you have to put on your "jerk hat" every day for the rest of your life? I think women want the real man, and if you really are a jerk, that's what they want and if you're pretending to be something you're not, and she discovers it, you'll be gone before you know what hit you.

I personally just try to be the best I can be, and present the real me to whomever I meet...seems to work alright, and when I meet "the one", she'' know what she's getting. I'm a little bit older, and looking for a LTR, rather than a "hookup".

One other note on DeAngelo...he always has lots of butt-kissing testamonials to back up his claims...they all read the same to me, like he wrote them himself...hmmm.
 
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You know, I briefly considered this, then I woke up. I got that book "The Game" and only got halfway through it before selling it on Amazon. It was entertaining, but I'm not going to go bar hopping making a complete ass out of myself and try some stupid Jedi mind tricks on women. If I can't be authentic, it's not worth it. Of course, the downside is I'm sitting at home alone on a Saturday night. But the women who fall for those tricks aren't women I'd want to be in a relationship with anyway.

Dating has gotten really tough these days, but I'm not going to stoop to tricks to get laid.
 
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I think it's useful for men to get past the intial few stages of communication with someone- after that it's about intent. if you read the books its really not tricks- and anything is better than coming off desperate or creepy.

just like anything- it can be used for good or evil.
 
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jtkdp wrote :
It probably works in the short term, to pick up women, get sex, and carry on a short term relationship, but I don't see it working in the long term. If you do meet, "the one", and it works out, then do you have to put on your "jerk hat" every day for the rest of your life? I think women want the real man, and if you really are a jerk, that's what they want and if you're pretending to be something you're not, and she discovers it, you'll be gone before you know what hit you.
Yes, and I've seen it recommended that you simply continue presenting that persona for the rest of your life. Though, while women want to see 'the real man"....this doesn't mean the real man they like will be you. The kinds of advice these guys give always struck me as likely working on the most superficial types of women.....but that these things would turn off many other women (which of course these 'gurus' would deny).
 
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I watched the Pick Up Artist show and i didn't see him advocating being a jerk. do those other books actually do that?

honestly, the one book i read (have no idea who right now) taught social skills over being a jerk.
 
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I don't think it advocates being a jerk, and there are some good communication techniques in there, but most of it didn't feel authentic to me. This whole "peacocking" idea with a certain look and all of that, seemed lame. I ordered a book recently, and I'll let the board know how it is if it ever comes in. Its called The Art of the Approach: The A Game Guide to Meeting Beautiful Women.
 
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scarlet13 wrote :
I watched the Pick Up Artist show and i didn't see him advocating being a jerk. do those other books actually do that?

honestly, the one book i read (have no idea who right now) taught social skills over being a jerk.
I don't know of any that advocate literally acting like a 'jerk'. What might be seen as close to this is being 'cocky/funny' a la David DeAngelo.
 
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