Men vs. Women....who's more at fault? (Courtship)


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WeDesignOurLives is offline WeDesignOurLives Post #1  September 3,2008, 2:47pm
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Which group is (overall) causing more problems in the dating realm....men or women.


(This question is like the male/female dating version of 'which wins...the unstoppable force or the immovable object'.
 
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this question concerns me


why do we always have to divide ourselves


men or women - are you implying a difference = are you sterotyping the genders
 
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WeDesignOurLives, wrote :

Which group is (overall) causing more problems in the dating realm....men or women.


(This question is like the male/female dating version of 'which wins...the unstoppable force or the immovable object'.
You answer your own question by stating it has no answer. This just seems like baiting.
 
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Interesting question. From the news stories I have read it seems like many, of course not all, men have stopped being men and become cowarads. Women on the other hand seems so desperate for men that they settle for these psudo-men and allow them to be abusive to them and their children. When that becomes too much they move on to the next spinless coward and never consider finding a nice real man to settle down with. It is everybody's fault.
 
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belmont_girl,292058 wrote :

Interesting question. From the news stories I have read it seems like many, of course not all, men have stopped being men and become cowarads. Women on the other hand seems so desperate for men that they settle for these psudo-men and allow them to be abusive to them and their children. When that becomes too much they move on to the next spinless coward and never consider finding a nice real man to settle down with. It is everybody's fault.
Don't believe everything you read in the news.


Women don't want men to be men. They want castrated men. The perfect example of this is the modern family court system and no-fault divorce. A man can be faithful to his wife, provide for his children, and be a good father. In a no-fault state, she can up and leave, easily get a restraining order based on false allegations, thus getting him thrown out of his own home, take his kids, and half or more of everything he ever had. A lot of men are saying thanks but no thanks, and I can't blame them.
 
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No fault divorce is the court's response to the almost impossible task of determining who is more at fault in dissolving a marriage. Who knows who first started, or why they started to be a less than good spouse? How to determine who was worse the husband or wife? Best just to accept that some marriages don't work out. No need to assess blame or degrees of blame.

The stats overwhelmingly show it is women not men who suffer the most financially from a marriage break down and if they used the same logic as some men do they would never risk tagging up with some guy who may drop them for no good reasons ten or twenty or forty years down the road. Some women have read the gloomy divorce stats and have concluded that marriage is a very bad deal for women.

But most men and most women continue to believe, in spite of contrary evidence, that marriage can be made to work.

No fault divorce laws are not the cause of marriage break downs. Bad marriages are the cause of divorce. All the courts are doing is stating that they don't want to play the near hopeless blame game.

 
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WeDesignOurLives, wrote :

Which group is (overall) causing more problems in the dating realm....men or women.


(This question is like the male/female dating version of 'which wins...the unstoppable force or the immovable object'.
you're kidding me with question aren't you???


I would blame MEN because they're male


and WOMEN because they're female


Hope that answer the age-old question.
 
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This would depend on the individuals involved. Even among the same couple...some days it would be her fault and other days him. Overall it probably averages out between the sexes.
 
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Personally I believe that people marry the wrong person , that's why there is such a high divorce rate everywhere. That and the fact that today we have such a disposable society, that most people think that they can replace their current partner very easily with someone else.


All men are not at fault. All men are not perfect.


All women are not at fault. All women are not perfect.


Regarding being worse off after divorce -- it depends on the situation.


If there are children involved, it can be harder on the woman (financially, emotionally, mentally) if she takes full or sole custody (the same can be said for the man). Even if there are no children involved, there can be huge emotional scars on both people that can sometimes take a long time to heal.
 
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zana,292769 wrote :

Personally I believe that people marry the wrong person , that's why there is such a high divorce rate everywhere. That and the fact that today we have such a disposable society, that most people think that they can replace their current partner very easily with someone else.
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This is so very true, Zana. Marriage is entered into too lightly and not taken with the seriousness it warrants, it seems. Everything has become so cheap and disposable I guess some people start to thinking other people are cheap and disposable too. Quite sad, really.
 
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