Can_I_just_be_Jo is offline Can_I_just_be_Jo Post #1  December 14,2009, 3:34pm

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Every time I am on a long trip I have this same debate in my mind. It goes on the line of the chicken or the egg.

On one hand you have those that have "road rage" the other those that feel it is fine for them to spend their life in the fast lane going barely the speed limit.

I am of the persuasion that believes that you should only be in the left lane if you are actually passing someone. Granted depending on how late I am I may be passing someone going 90. There are others who for what ever reason go 55 or 60 in the fast lane regardless of whether they are passing someone or being passed.

To make matters worse some of these people accelerate the minute there is a snowball's chance in hell of you passing them in the right lane. Then when at 110 you actually free yourself of their imposition they flip you off and look at you like you are a piece of poo.

So regardless of your traffic issues who do you think really has the mental issues? The "road rage" or the passive aggressive?
 
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Well, in a way they're both kinda similar in that they both feel "entitled". Although being of the "lead, follow, or get the heck out of the way" persuasion, my sympathies usually lie more with the "rager". That is until one of them starts riding on my tail (which is already doing 20 over the speed limit, on a no-passing 2-lane)... then yeah, we can switch gears and do the "slo-mo" all day!

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Both are mental. Driving is supposed to be a form of transportation, not war. The last place I want to die is in some stupid traffic accident. How pointless! I never interact visually/verbally with even the most irritating drivers since a lot of them probably have guns in the car.

I assume 1/2 the other drivers have IQs below average. 10% have been drinking or doing drugs; at night that's probably more like 25-50%. A lot of the others just had a big fight with somebody, or their mother died, or their child's in the hospital, or they've been sleep-deprived for months, or they forgot their glasses. Some are just crazy. And everybody makes mistakes now and then.

Driving is lots of fun! I love it. I love handling cars. I'm possibly the best driver in LA. I can't believe how many people survive driving every day!
 
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ming_on_mongo wrote :
Well, in a way they're both kinda similar in that they both feel "entitled". Although being of the "lead, follow, or get the heck out of the way" persuasion, my sympathies usually lie more with the "rager". That is until one of them starts riding on my tail (which is already doing 20 over the speed limit, on a no-passing 2-lane)... then yeah, we can switch gears and do the "slo-mo" all day!

Ain't driving fun...!!?
Yeah I never could get why someone would ride someone's tail when passing is not an option. I never tailgate unless it is just the only way to get it through to the slow guy that I would really prefer to be going faster than him.

I guess I question this because it takes quite a long time before I behave badly yet I am looked at as the person with road rage. I mean after the person has had several opportunities to get in the right lane to let you pass and didn't then you try to pass them in the right lane (which I hate because it is sooooo dangerous) and they speed up so you can't. At that point I will go pretty darn fast to pass them and I know that is dangerous. Still I can't help but wonder what motivates them to force my hand on that.
 
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Oh yes, whether it's at work, in relationships, or on the road, I think "passive-aggression" is one of the most under-appreciated forms of aggression & hostility there is! And since there's no confrontation or "warning" you aren't always aware when it's going on, so you can easily just keep on "spinning your wheels", even when being conciliatory. Until it finally dawns on you that all the while, they've been actively "throwing a monkey wrench in the works", because they're silently peeved.

Am not endorsing it (it's not my style), but just objectively, I do see the advantages. Requires very little energy, is relatively hands-off and free of responsibility ("who.... me!?"), and by playing "the victim" & "underdog", they even enlist other's sympathies & support. Manipulative, narcissistic and immature.... definitely! But as a style of aggression, it's brilliant!!
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Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
Still I can't help but wonder what motivates them to force my hand on that.
They are trying to get you killed! Don't cooperate!
 
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I tend to call these people that drive the speed limit in the fasts lane "the enforcers". It seems to me to be just another way of trying to assume some sort of control.

Passive aggressive? Yep. Does it push the road rage button in someone who's prone to be a rager? Sure. I liken the whole personality soup on the roadways to the behavior shown on Eha or any other online forum. You are, for the most part, totally anonymous (in your vehicle and online), and that enhances your false feelings of being in control and having power. I'ts my assertion that they're both equally dangerous on the road. (And possibly on eHa as well!)
 
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They are trying to get you killed! Don't cooperate!
Good point. It is just such a head scratcher for me. Strange, I know there is a mess of them but in person no one ever admits to this behavior.
 
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marguitar wrote :
I tend to call these people that drive the speed limit in the fasts lane "the enforcers". It seems to me to be just another way of trying to assume some sort of control.

Passive aggressive? Yep. Does it push the road rage button in someone who's prone to be a rager? Sure. I liken the whole personality soup on the roadways to the behavior shown on Eha or any other online forum. You are, for the most part, totally anonymous (in your vehicle and online), and that enhances your false feelings of being in control and having power. I'ts my assertion that they're both equally dangerous on the road. (And possibly on eHa as well!)
I was once run off the road by a man driving a pick up like a weapon. He was switching lanes without any regard for who might be in his blind spot. So we both end up at a red light so I gestured for him to roll down his window so he smiled and did. (idiot!) I said, "Excuse me but I was just wondering what it was like to be emasculated by stepping out of your vehicle?" Left him at the light scratching his head. Why did he roll down his window anyway? Did he think I was impressed by the size of his truck?
 
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Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
I was once run off the road by a man driving a pick up like a weapon. He was switching lanes without any regard for who might be in his blind spot. So we both end up at a red light so I gestured for him to roll down his window so he smiled and did. (idiot!) I said, "Excuse me but I was just wondering what it was like to be emasculated by stepping out of your vehicle?" Left him at the light scratching his head. Why did he roll down his window anyway? Did he think I was impressed by the size of his truck?
Um, kinda touchy question. But just for curious, why is it whenever a woman wants to get back at a man (deserved or not), they always seem to go after the guy's masculinity...?
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