Compromise Of the Left and Right On Healthcare?


View Poll Results: Healthcare:
Don't change anything. 6 13.04%
Nationalize the healthcare industry. 12 26.09%
We need a public option. 19 41.30%
Promote co-ops to compete with private insurers. 9 19.57%
Other 6 13.04%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 46. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Topic Tools Search this Thread
DennisWisconsin is offline DennisWisconsin Post #1  August 17,2009, 5:24pm
DennisWiscons…'s Avatar

Milwaukee

Power Poster

Joined: Jun 2008

Milwaukee

Posts: 5,720

See profile

Will non-profit insurance co-ops be the compromise to compete head to head with private insurers?

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO JOIN THE GROUP TO VOTE AND NO ONE IS TRACKING YOUR VOTE, SO VOTE, PLEASE.
Last edited by DennisWisconsin; August 19,2009 at 2:24pm.
 
  Reply With Quote
DennisWisconsin is offline DennisWisconsin Post #2  August 17,2009, 5:36pm
DennisWiscons…'s Avatar

Milwaukee

Power Poster

Joined: Jun 2008

Milwaukee

Posts: 5,720

See profile

Don't forget to vote in the poll at the top of the page! I tried to word the options as neutral as possible.
Last edited by DennisWisconsin; August 17,2009 at 6:00pm.
 
  Reply With Quote
D_Lion is offline D_Lion Post #3  August 17,2009, 6:18pm
D_Lion's Avatar

- Ladies want to wring my neck - you have been warned!

Sage

Joined: Aug 2008

NJ

Posts: 30,721

See profile

I don’t think that any solution which retains deductibles or other out-of-pocket costs can address the moral issue of health access, and outcomes, being a function of economic resources. Therefore, a truly fully-paid system is needed (it could come from single-payer, or legislation governing insurer practice.)
[FONT=Arial]
 
  Reply With Quote
DennisWisconsin is offline DennisWisconsin Post #4  August 17,2009, 6:23pm
DennisWiscons…'s Avatar

Milwaukee

Power Poster

Joined: Jun 2008

Milwaukee

Posts: 5,720

See profile

So you favor natonalizing the system? Don't forget to vote in the poll above...


YOU DO NOT HAVE TO JOIN THE GROUP TO VOTE AND NO ONE IS TRACKING YOUR VOTE, SO VOTE, PLEASE.
Last edited by DennisWisconsin; August 19,2009 at 2:24pm.
 
  Reply With Quote
shoelace is offline shoelace Post #5  August 18,2009, 9:01am
shoelace's Avatar

is teaching his cat to fetch.

Quick Study

Joined: Dec 2008

Louisiana

Posts: 242

See profile

Because of what's coming at us in the future with complete genetic knowledge of illness potential for everyone, from the time they are born, I think we may even need an amendment to the Constitution to guarantee healthcare as a right rather than a privilege just for those fortunate enough to have good genes.

The fact that you can be deprived of your life by being denied healthcare is already unconstitutional. The right to life is guaranteed (except for state executions). The Federal government is responsible for the welfare of its citizens. If its citizens are dying because they are denied healthcare--care that is readily available--the Federal government has the responsibility to resolve the problem, if at all possible.
Last edited by shoelace; August 18,2009 at 9:03am. Reason: clarity
 
  Reply With Quote
D_Lion is offline D_Lion Post #6  August 18,2009, 2:51pm
D_Lion's Avatar

- Ladies want to wring my neck - you have been warned!

Sage

Joined: Aug 2008

NJ

Posts: 30,721

See profile

Does the government have the responsibility to affect outcomes which are the result of specific personal choices?
[FONT=Arial]
Last edited by D_Lion; August 18,2009 at 2:53pm.
 
  Reply With Quote
TaoShaffer is offline TaoShaffer Post #7  August 18,2009, 4:21pm
TaoShaffer's Avatar

Quick Study

Joined: Sep 2008

San Diego, CA

Posts: 177

See profile

I'd be in favor of examining the health insurance and health care industries to find areas where costs can be lowered and regulate price gouging.

Doing this would help address the "moral" problem while still keeping the capitalist model that has served us so well.

It may even help "co-ops" develop.

OH! And health education so people can stop saying "we didn't know this would give us cancer."

--Tao

--Tao
 
  Reply With Quote
LizziePooh is offline LizziePooh Post #8  August 18,2009, 4:33pm

Unregistered

Joined: May 2008

SoCal

Posts: 7,705

See profile

I think DLion brought up great questions.

The first question is one - should people be responsible for themselves or should the state take care of them?

And the second question - if the state is responsible for something like healthcare, then wouldn't that mean that the state does have the right to dictate lifestyles that affect health since they are footing the bill?

And for Dlion - still playing around with envisioning single payor. I still think it is a terrible idea - maybe just on principle but still mulling it around in my head. The only plus I have come up with so far is no litigation. Who are people going to sue??
 
  Reply With Quote
LizziePooh is offline LizziePooh Post #9  August 18,2009, 4:34pm

Unregistered

Joined: May 2008

SoCal

Posts: 7,705

See profile

And for Dennis' question, public option or co-op will both have severe consequences to rising healthcare costs and to losing private options.
 
  Reply With Quote
DennisWisconsin is offline DennisWisconsin Post #10  August 18,2009, 4:53pm
DennisWiscons…'s Avatar

Milwaukee

Power Poster

Joined: Jun 2008

Milwaukee

Posts: 5,720

See profile

LizziePooh wrote :
And for Dennis' question, public option or co-op will both have severe consequences to rising healthcare costs and to losing private options.
In the history of capitalism, when has competition ever risen prices?

So you love your insurance rates going up every year to the point where companies are forced to stop covering their employees.


So you love your insurance company reduces your coverage every year.

So you love your insurance company who denies your claims.

So what will you say when beyond your control you find yourself uninsured? You've got a thousand dollars a month for coverage?


YOU DO NOT HAVE TO JOIN THE GROUP TO VOTE AND NO ONE IS TRACKING YOUR VOTE, SO VOTE, PLEASE.
Last edited by DennisWisconsin; August 19,2009 at 2:25pm.
 
  Reply With Quote
Reply


« Question? | Atheists, Humorists, and Science | Kid Science »
Topic Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new topics
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Looking for a Great Relationship?

Get started now. Fill out this form and take the questionnaire to receive your matches.

First Name:

I'm a:
seeking

Postal Code:

Country:

Email:

Confirm Email:

Password:


How did you hear about us?


Latest on our Dating Advice Discussion Boards

“The tennis ball story is a good analogy, RD, and that's how I interpret "gut feeling" -- a conclusion/sense of something that's a thought, not a feeling; though it will have feelings associated with ... ” –  Sassafras54

Join the “Is Your Gut Leading - or Misleading You?” discussion

“Agree. Given where you are emotionally, I would cease all communication with Mr. Trade Show. You're vulnerable. He's up for a challenge. It's playing with fire. You'll be in a bad place in the ... ” –  emma_hazards

Join the “Received lovely email from former poofer” discussion

“How about phone calls, then?” –  barbarella_42

Join the “Advice on Response time” discussion

“I have never spoken to a woman like he has. Yeah, I have never spoken to a woman like that either. It is a hard call to whether he is just as jerk, or whether he is a player. Both are feasible ... ” –  ScottK

Join the “So, men. Explain this to me, please!” discussion

“I have come to this same conclusion. Thank you.” –  bibittyboo

Join the “Confused about date #2” discussion

“Harmonygirl, I do not usually make up my mind on blanket situations but instead would examine each one on it's own merits, so I cannot answer your question. However, just in the going about of daily ... ” –  Ephemera

Join the “Atheism, Religion and Tolerance” discussion

“I was ok until the kiss on the cheek part....That doesn't sound like your defenses were up at all... It's one thing for a guy to walk up and start with the cheesy lines....But as soon as I say, "no ... ” –  Ingytravel

Join the “So this guy walks into a bar . . .” discussion

“ No. It is not wise. You have to throw all your eggs into one basket for love to work at all. Relationships are inherently riskier than careers. You can't use the same rules. You might lose ... ” –  harnomygirl

Join the “Becoming Exclusive” discussion



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 1:06am.

Discussion Boards Archive

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0