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Do you know of any organized religion that preaches against the Golden rule? When it comes down to how we are expected/exorted to behave, does it not just boil down to the Golden Rule, albeit in many guises?


If I follow the golden rule, am I following the basic precept of most religions?
 
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"This is the sum of duty. Do not unto others that which would cause you pain if done to you."
-- Mahabharata 5:1517, from the Vedic tradition of India,
circa 3000 BC





"What is hateful to you, do not to our fellow man. That is entire Law, all the rest is commentary."
-- Talmud, Shabbat 31a, from the Judaic tradition,
circa 1300 BC





"That nature alone is good which refrains from doing unto another whatsoever is not good for itself."
-- Avesta, Dadistan-i-dinik 94:5, from the Zoroastrian tradition,
circa 600 BC





"Hurt not others in ways that you find hurtful."
-- Tripitaka, Udanga-varga 5,18 , from the Buddhist tradition,
circa 525 BC





"Surely it is the maxim of loving kindness, do not unto others that which you would not have done unto you."
-- Analects, Lun-yu XV,23, from the Confucian tradition,
circa 500 BC





"One should treat all beings as he himself would be treated."
-- Agamas, Sutrakrtanga 1.10, 1-3, from the Jain tradition,
circa 500 BC





"Regard your neighbor's gain as your gain and your neighbor's loss as your loss."
-- Tai-shang Kang-ying P'ien, from the Taoist tradition,
circa 500 BC





"Do not do to others that which would anger you if others did it to you."
-- Socrates (the Greek philosopher),
circa 470-399 BC





"Treat your inferiors as you would be treated by your superiors."
-- Epistle XLVII,11, from the Seneca tradition,
circa 5-65 AD





"Therefore all things whatsoever you desire that men should do to you, do you even so to them. For this is the Law and the prophets."
-- New Testament, Matthew 7:12, from the Christian tradition,
circa 30 AD
 
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Andr3w Thank you so much for your post! How on earth did you find all this relevant commentary from so many different places?


I have read your post at least 4 times now and am still heartened by it. Thank you!
 
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Thanks for the kind words, i found these quotes here:


http://www.diamondhelpers.com/loveandlife/famousquotes/goldenrule.shtml
 
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It sounds like such a wonderful platitude until you put it into the suicide bomber context - they're not doing anything to others that they wouldn't do to themselves...
 
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I don't know of any religions that speak against the golden rule but it seems like some native american shaminism might see the world and how to act in it a little different than some other religions. It has been ages since I have read anything though so i couldn't be more specific right now.
 
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Author Robert Wright thinks the crises the human species now faces are moral in nature, and that our salvation lies in the intelligent pursuit of self-interest. In his book Nonzero, Wright argues that life depends on a non-zero-sum dynamic. While a zero-sum game depends on a winner and loser, all parties in a non-zero-sum game win or lose together, so players will more likely survive if they cooperate.

Robert Wright: The evolution of compassion | Video on TED.com
 
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I think the only thing left out is a god.

If one is a proponent of a religion, there is nearly always a deity or deities that must be honored.

Being good (the Golden Rule) is not sufficient without worship. But worship without moral behavior (the Golde rule again) is insufficeint also.

That is where the suicide bomber comes in. In his religion, worship exceeds all else, and supplants all morality and self preservation.
 
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StatGamer wrote :
I follow the golden rule, am I following the basic precept of most religions?
Not just religions but moral codes (because being (conventionally) selfish would be an amoral code.)

I don't know any religions that would take the premise that god is evil since the nature of religion is to be validated as worthy. There are religions that DO evil but their premise is that they're good and you're evil. Hitler didn't think he was evil (which is why very evil people can't be redeemed... there's no way to prove to them that they're completely wrong any more than one can disprove a conspiracy...any evidence presented is just part of the conspiracy.)
 
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