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WOW!!, that was good ,, would have taken me 100 years to put that all down,,im done,,would even try to argue with you,, you have all your ducks in order,, i am amazed and would like to here from others with simmilar ideas,,
 
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You're very Kind!
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Along the way throughout the Bible God drops hints to help us know that we are on the right track - and that we can trust his word. For example: Hebrews 11:3 "By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible." and: Isaiah 40:22 "It is He who sits above the circle of the earth, And its inhabitants are like grasshoppers, Who stretches out the heavens like a curtain And spreads them out like a tent to dwell in."

There's just a couple of verses that are saying things that "Science" didn't know when the bible was written - but God knew... ...and he gives us a nod and a wink now and again just to let us in on it. Someone may say: "That was just flowery writing and given the number of verses in the bible - you are bound to find a few that sound like you want them to sound." Well, It goes both ways! There are going to be a few verses that after being translated may sound kind of funny. God hater's jump on those with no mercy - why?... ...Because the Word of God condemns their sin. And they have had quite enough of that!

Romans 8:6-8
"The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God."

But here is the precious promise of Christ:

"I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life. I tell you the truth, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself." John 5:24-26

Point is... ...our faith needs to rest on the true born again intervention that God has brought about in a person's life. Did God really reveal himself to you? Have you really heard his voice truly speak to your heart? Have you heard and answered HIS call? Those who "hear the voice of the Son of God will live".

Oh rise from your grave, whoever is thirsty for the truth and for life - hear the voice of the son of God and rise from your grave and Christ will shine on you.
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im impressed with your knowledge on all this, can you give me some enlightment on lavaithon, have serched but couldnt find any info, was it real or was it just used as a scare tactic by god? as far as i know it only described by god , are there any acounts of a man seeing or ?
 
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Here are some bible references regarding Leviathan and behemoth. There's probably more but this is what I could quickly find. They possibly could be talking about whales when they mention Leviathan - which are found in about 5 places in scriptures but that is not at all proved.

Genesis 1:21 KJV
Job 7:12 KJV
Psalm 8:5 MSG
Ezekiel 32:2 KJV
Matthew 12:40 KJV

Here's a few references with the word Leviathan and one with Behemoth.

Job 3:3
May those who are good at cursing curse that day. Unleash the sea beast, Leviathan, on it.

Job 3:8
May those who curse days curse that day, those who are ready to rouse Leviathan.

Job 41:1
"Can you pull in the leviathan with a fishhook or tie down his tongue with a rope?

Job 41:12
"But I've more to say about Leviathan, the sea beast, his enormous bulk, his beautiful shape. Who would even dream of piercing that tough skin or putting those jaws into bit and bridle? And who would dare knock at the door of his mouth filled with row upon row of fierce teeth? His pride is invincible; nothing can make a dent in that pride. Nothing can get through that proud skin— impervious to weapons and weather, The thickest and toughest of hides, impenetrable!

Psalm 74:9
With one blow you split the sea in two, you made mincemeat of the dragon Tannin. You lopped off the heads of Leviathan, then served them up in a stew for the animals.

Psalm 74:14
Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.

Psalm 104:24
Oh, look—the deep, wide sea, brimming with fish past counting, sardines and sharks and salmon. Ships plow those waters, and Leviathan, your pet dragon, romps in them.

Psalm 104:26
There go the ships: there is that leviathan, whom thou hast made to play therein.

Isaiah 27:1
In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

Job 40:14-16
"Look at the behemoth, which I made along with you and which feeds on grass like an ox.
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i want to thank you all for what you have contributed to my ,, well let me call it my quest for the truth,, i came to be a cristen late in life,, i did it on my terms,, not the churches,, im not saying im right and your wrong,, its just that some of us want to see the hole puzzel put together,, i do relize that ill never know the hole truth but im learning more and more everyday, the more i learn the closer it bring me to god,, i see things today in a lot clearer way,, i may have stepped on a few toe here but im realy not sorry for that as my intention is to try to bring down some of the wall that keep good people from GOD , in my serch ive found 1 vary distubing fact, that is most cristen havent read the entire bible, now im not a vary good reader but i have read it from end to end,, what i have found great is the bible on cd, with the cds ive been thru the bible at least 10 times, and each time i get more out of it, , its so easy to do , when you are bord just listen and learn, im a truck driver and have plenty of time to listen,,
 
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How's it going guys?
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