JennJenn is offline JennJenn Post #1  March 2,2009, 6:22pm
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How many races are there? What caused races? How are different races possible if Adam and Eve were the only two people created?


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hi again, hope im still your freind after the last one, once again its the evolution thing , people are the way they becuase of ther seroundings, thay are adapted to them, many christions would tell you the story about the tower of babble
 
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no where in the bible does it tell us where cain got his wife or where the ones he was afraid of came from, except in genesses ch1, god created man male and femail and sent them out into the world to multiply , this was after the plants and trees were on the earth, adam was ceated befor the plant and put in the garden that god had started,read this closley and chart the timeline for the animales plants and so on, adam was formedfrom the dust of the earth befor anything lived on it or water, god also said it wasent god for man to be alone so he set out to make a companion for him, he made the beasts and livestock at that time, adam named ech of them but none were found sutible, this is all in the bible, im not makeing it up, if you read this with an open mind you will see the two differant time line as to when god created adam and when he ceated man and woman mae and femail, by the way im going by the king james version witch i think most of you are so get out your bibles and study, prove me wrong on this, im learning so much by this chat and hope you are to, like i said earlyer i try to back up what say, exsept fot [digit] who atacked me personaly by picking on my spelling to try to discredit me,you have all been great, besides he [digit] stll believes pigs are unclean animanls
 
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About Cain's wife: the Bible doesn't specifically say that Cain's wife was his sister. I checked. However, since the Bible only tells about Adam and Eve being created, it must be assumed that Cain's wife was a sister, niece, or grand-niece.God placed a mark on Cain after he killed Abel to protect him from harm from his family. Cain and his wife moved to the land of Nod. This is where his son, Enoch was born and later the city of Enoch was named after the son. As you go further down Cain's line, you find Lamech who was the first to defy the monogomous lifestyle in the Bible. He had two wives. A young man attacked him and he bragged about the fact that he had killed the young man. In fact he stated that he would do 77 times worse to any man who attacked him. Lamech is really the first one to be recorded in the Bible as doing things by his own strength instead of depending on God.


The Bible is quite specific about creation. It tells us in detail that man was created from dust, a dead thing. Woman was created from man. She's his missing rib. The Bible specifically tells us how woman was created. She wasn't another mound of dust. Rather, she was a piece of man's flesh. That is why the Bible states that when a man marries a woman, they become one flesh. He's found his missing rib.


Meanwhile, Adam and Eve had more children, but the Bible specifically talks about Seth who's name means "in place of" because of Abel's death, Seth was considered a replacement of Abel. Noah is a 4th or 5th generation grandson of Seth. Without Seth, we would not be here today because Noah was the only man to find favor in God's eyes when God was ready to give up on creation. Noah had three sons. It seems that they may have been triplets. After wiping away the earth, God started fresh with the three sons and their wives.


Here's the basic fact...we have two accounts of God starting with one blood-line concerning humanity. There aren't any aliens. There aren't any records of angels falling down from heaven and marrying men. So really there is just only one race. Man.
 
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when the sons of god mated with the doughters of man they created the nefelin, they were the great men of old, not shur if igot all the word exact this is just off the top of my head, i realy dont understand all the lack of trying to open ones mind and to just look at the other side[same side] jennjenn had made arefence to dna, if a person had only alittle knowledge of this subject, they would have to agree to evolution, the evodence in just the dna is overwelming, this is just one aspect to evolution, i mean who or what put all that stuff out there, was it a plote by the devil to confuse us, i dont think so, just like when science proved the world was round, or that we are not the center of everything, science isnt out there to prove that god dosent exsist, it juts take the facts and comes to a conclution, this has nothing to do with god, darwin, einstien, tesla and all the other genneusses of our time souldnt be mocked or lauft at becuase we dont understand them, i believe god puts thes supper brains on the earth at the times when he feels we are ready for that informations, problems it takes many people many years to exsept the truth and when they do they usely find out it has changed notjing, we just have a little better understanding of our world
 
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Well, Tumbleweed, I must respectfully disagree with your last post on here. The nefelin were not the great men of old. The nefelin were actually spoken about in Genesis 5 (I think) before the next verse which stated that the sons of man married the daughters of man and begot children. They were not the great men you refer to.


Also, how can you say that God created man and that man evolved? That's like an oxymoron, (a statement that speaks against itself. Not calling you any names.) Okay so, God created man. He created him in His image on the sixth day. And He saw that what He had created was very good. So if God created us in His image, what more is there to evolve into? We are just a little bit below God. Read that in a Psalm today. There is nothing for us to evolve into. If anything, we are in reverse evolution due to the sin factor in our souls. We can't marry close family members (not that I would want to,) because our offspring would have a higher propensity to be born with birth defects.


By the way, I am enjoying this debate. Gotta get outside and exercise so that I can "evolve" into a better shape.
 
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hi jennjenn, yes i too am injoyingthis, had to look this up to be shur, king james, genesis ch#6 when themen began to increase in numbers on the earthand daughters where born to them ,the sons of godsaw the daughter of men where beutyful and they married any of them they chose, then the lord said my spiret wont contend with man forever for he is mortal, his days will be 120 years, the nefelin where on the earth in those days and afterward, when the sons of god went to the doughters of men and had children by them they where the heros of old men of renown, again you missunderstand me, but in this chapter it says [the sons of god] not [ the sons of man] , a big differance between the key words here GOD or MAN, you also missunderstand what im saying about evolution, i was hopping iwouldnt have to go this far, but you are just as stubern as i am, in the bible it says god created man from the dust of the earth, yes i agree, to me and many others this is way to simple of an explantion and leaves out all the details, but then in those days the details wouldnt have been understude at all and would sounded like a lot of garble, this is how i belive he did it, he started from scratch and using science nature and the process of evolution to to create a wold that would fit together so tightly that all worked hand and hand, during this process he made slight changes to keep it going in the directions he wanted, finely we come to the part of adam, he tock his unfinished product and finished it, not shur how , probly altering the dna a little, hence the first man, would also exsplan where cain got his wife and why the jews where his chossen and the blood line thing, i believe thru joshua he what to exsteminate the rest of the human race and replace it with his people, i believe that the others where used to subdue the earth for his people, then i could go on and on but i think im in too deep now, IM IN TROUBLE, realy i dont have all the answers this is what i therize happened and this will change as i learn more and more, but for right noiw this makes sence to me, ya what a wild imagination but remember any thing under god is possible tumbleweed
 
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To address the title of the thread I can see no problem with accepting both creation and evolution. Creationism is based on faith, evolution is based on observable facts. Nowhere is it written that God created living things (people, animals, plants) and that all offspring would be clones or that they would not evolve.
 
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Gr8Guyn2008,547892 wrote :

Nowhere is it written that God created living things . . .
Hey, Sssppt, over here. Yes, there is. It's called the Bible.
 
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