notyet is offline notyet Post #1  June 16,2010, 5:47pm
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on the last three pages of CS there are five threads dealing with various aspects of sex, sexual relations and sexual preferences. some here would say (and have said) that us fundamentalists are obsessed with sex. and making sure that it is controlled. and go around imposing our views on others.

but in those last five threads, only one was started by a poster claiming that she was waiting for marriage. the rest were started by those who have said they would not wait. or advocate for same-sex intercourse. or boast about sexual conquests.

so my question:

who is doing the proselytizing around here when it comes to preaching about sex?
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waltercl is offline waltercl Post #2  June 16,2010, 5:55pm
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I was just thinking the same thing. As far as I'm concerned it is clear to me that there are those with a specific agenda to try and keep an argument stirred up, and they feel the sexual issue or something related to it is one of the ways they can do that. I'm the new guy with with respect to admin, but I do think it is worth looking at whether or not there is too much tolerance for some of the things happening.

I will also post some similar thoughts on the thread I started about ways to increase participation. Many of us would like this to be less combative and less argumentative where Christians felt better about sharing. Should we be taking a look at the fact that there might be those with the opposite desire? Maybe the need to keep something constantly stirred up is a part of that.
 
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ForTheWin is offline ForTheWin Post #3  June 16,2010, 5:59pm

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Why not name names rather than toss out veiled threats about those who don't post in a fashion that suits your agenda? If you wish it to be less combative walterci why don't you tone down your preaching and nagging those unnamed posters who only want to cause trouble you know the ones who don't agree with you.
 
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ForTheWin wrote :
Why not name names rather than toss out veiled threats about those who don't post in a fashion that suits your agenda? If you wish it to be less combative walterci why don't you tone down your preaching and nagging those unnamed posters who only want to cause trouble you know the ones who don't agree with you.
i didn't see any threats. let me go back and read my OP...

nope. no threats there.

?:-/

and i'm trying for am impersonal conversation. it would be hard to keep it civil if we start with, you said...! no, you said...!

i'm just asking a simple question. well, actually two.

who is obsessed with sex here- the fundamentalist/evangelical or others?

and...

who is doing the proselytizing- the fundamentalist/evangelical or others??

no need for names. we can use broad categories of people in this conversation, i think. use a different category if you like or think it warranted or more accurately reflects what you see.
 
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Well it is an interesting question. Who has really made sex and how to deal with it the number one issue for Christians? Is it the skeptical community that is forcing fundamentalist Christians to talk about sex or is it that the fundamentalist are seen on television, selling books, squashing gay rights and then going abroad with gay lovers, could it be that from pulpit after pulpit one hears sermons about how uppity women, the pill, the sexual revolution ruined marriage?

In my opinion we are obsessed with sex in American because Christian are obsessed with sex. For most Christians it is a case of Jesus having died for the sin of lusting after the pretty girl down the street or worse yet the pretty boy down the street.

As for FTW's comments look at walterci's comments and the way he broadly hint at the ruin of these threads by people who want to cause trouble. We know he is not talking about the Christian. There is only one avowed non Christian here and that is FTW. She is the obvious target of his attack and veiled threats.

Oh, yah, me too probably as he has already used his admin muscle against me.
 
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When the broader subject is romantic relationships, sex is bound to be a part of that, whether people are doin' it or waiting patiently.

I guess it's difficult for those having sex to believe that anyone can just choose not to. It's also difficult for those abstaining to believe that anyone can think God is okay with sex outside of marriage. For both, the opposing viewpoint is just unfathomable.

And it gets a little sensitive because the people abstaining think people assume they're odd, and the people having sex think people assume God is angry with them.

So tempers flare. Doesn't make it right, but that's how it is.

How do we prevent that? We can only control our own actions. Which should be civil and respectful.
 
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chawks64 wrote :
When the broader subject is romantic relationships, sex is bound to be a part of that, whether people are doin' it or waiting patiently.

I guess it's difficult for those having sex to believe that anyone can just choose not to. It's also difficult for those abstaining to believe that anyone can think God is okay with sex outside of marriage. For both, the opposing viewpoint is just unfathomable.

And it gets a little sensitive because the people abstaining think people assume they're odd, and the people having sex think people assume God is angry with them.

So tempers flare. Doesn't make it right, but that's how it is.

How do we prevent that? We can only control our own actions. Which should be civil and respectful.
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I need to work on my own responses.
 
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notyet wrote :
not counting this thread...

on the last three pages of CS there are five threads dealing with various aspects of sex, sexual relations and sexual preferences. some here would say (and have said) that us fundamentalists are obsessed with sex. and making sure that it is controlled. and go around imposing our views on others.

but in those last five thread, only one was started by a poster claiming that she was waiting for marriage. the rest were started by those who have said they would not wait. or advocate for same-sex intercourse. or boast about sexual conquests.

so my question:

who is doing the proselytizing around here when it comes to preaching about sex?

Please tell me how I can give this 5 stars...

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Lcanada wrote :
Please tell me how I can give this 5 stars...

did I figure out 5 smiles correctly ?
I want five stars too!!!
 
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lindseyk wrote :
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I need to work on my own responses.
Nah, not you. You should become a diplomat and work for world peace. You got the peace mojo thing down perfectly.
 
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