How are you obedience to God in your dating, and how has that produced abundant life?


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LookinUp is offline LookinUp Post #1  November 21,2009, 12:46pm
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Tell me have you succeeded in being obedient to God in your dating life? Also, in doing that, how has God blessed with you more abundant life.

On the other hand, since we are all sinner, and fail him at times - tell me about how you have seen the damage to relationships by disobedience - you can tell it as though a friend did it if you want anonymity.

For example, in a committed relationship, but not married - how have you seen sex change a relationhip for you or others?

In particular Im interested in hearing from people who are NOT spring chickens like me - and face these decisions again.

Those who love Him do His will. Tell me campfire stories about how you have seen this in action to produce abundant life ...or how not following His will has lead to changed relationship(s) or hardship or grief.

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hi....

Sorry have no stories... but am encouraged by your post...

someone is considering obedience to God something worth talking about


What I don't get on here is why so many Christians seem to dismiss
Biblical teachings they may not like.

ex i don't get the justifications that are made for pre-marital sex
 
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Yes, if the right person suddenly appears in your life - dont we see the hand of God in that? Also, in being given that GIFT from God - after perhaps months or years of talking with God in prayer - the God who knows the words we speak before we speak them - and knows the secret desires of our hearts - will sleeping with that person anger Him? Lets say that you have a good prayer life - sin is separation from God - does that mean that if we DONT wait until marriage, we will be separated from Him? Will not not hear me talking to Him? I dont want that.

Since we have forgiveness, shall we go and sin more?

The word Christian means follower of Christ - that means that we follow the One who made sacrifice to be obedient.

This is a hard teaching to live!
 
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What I am saying is are we trying/intending/ wanting to live in that obedience
even when it's hard ?

Or are the majority of Christians eager to dismiss Biblical teachings they may not like or justify whatever with reasons and ignore words they don't like,
never taking them as something to consider? (Do we sacrifice Scripture or
sacrifice our comfort ?)
 
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Yes, if the right person suddenly appears in your life - dont we see the hand of God in that? Also, in being given that GIFT from God - after perhaps months or years of talking with God in prayer - the God who knows the words we speak before we speak them - and knows the secret desires of our hearts - will sleeping with that person anger Him? Lets say that you have a good prayer life - sin is separation from God - does that mean that if we DONT wait until marriage, we will be separated from Him? Will not not hear me talking to Him? I dont want that.

Since we have forgiveness, shall we go and sin more?

The word Christian means follower of Christ - that means that we follow the One who made sacrifice to be obedient.

This is a hard teaching to live!
We should go and ATTEMPT to sin no more. It is impossible for us not to sin or we would have no need of a Savior.

One problem is that some people have decided a number of sins are somehow worse than others, sex being in the top 5 or so. We tend to ignore other sins like gluttony or pride. In doing so we decide it's a heinous sin to have premarital sex, but not to be overweight. Why? Is that God making that distinction or Christians?

Lcanada wrote :
What I am saying is are we trying/intending/ wanting to live in that obedience
even when it's hard ?

Or are the majority of Christians eager to dismiss Biblical teachings they may not like or justify whatever with reasons and ignore words they don't like,
never taking them as something to consider? (Do we sacrifice Scripture or
sacrifice our comfort ?)
But we still haven't ALL agreed on what those Biblical teachings are. Most Christians pretty much agree that premarital sex is fornication and therefore sin, but it's a majority decision, not a 100% vote. There are some Real Christians who still dissent, but they are labeled as Christians In Name Only for this. What you may see as dismissing a Biblical teaching may actually be disagreeing with the common interpretation of it. Obviously we Christians don't agree on everything or there would be no need for denominations. Sex is no different, just a more highly charged issue.

For some reason, if I disagree on infant baptism or dunking vs. sprinkling or capital punishment I'm still considered a Good Christian, but not if I disagree about premarital sex. We, as humans, have separated that from all of the other issues and made it somehow more "sinful".
 
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CHAWKS, ru saying that sex outside of marriage is not sin? Isn't that the clear teaching of the Bible?
 
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CHAWKS, ru saying that sex outside of marriage is not sin? Isn't that the clear teaching of the Bible?
No, many don't feel it is a "clear" teaching of the Bible. It's an assumed teaching, and one that is widely accepted, but not by everyone. It turns on the definition of the word "fornicate" and its varients. There have been too many translations down the line for many (including myself) to just accept that the current English meaning is exactly the same as what was originally written.

In addition, I feel there is a difference between sex outside of an existing marriage and premarital sex. They are two very different things.

Also, even if we did agree that premarital sex was a sin (and I'm not saying I do), I'm concerned with the idea of making it somehow a worse sin than overeating or taking a sick day when you're well or carrying a balance on your credit card.
 
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Hey I think gluttony is not a good idea either... neither is debt

It could be anything ... sin is sin and yes we should all attempt
to sin no more in all things...

The point here is deciding to justify something we don't like,
and pick and choose Scriptures we agree with...

If it's a point needing clarifying or discussing that is one thing...

I'm asking if we are intentionally deciding to sin beacuse we want to ?

maybe a better example is saying we all know we shouldn't
steal (even our governments sanction that law) but say
it's ok to steal because we want whatever and justify theft.

are we attempting to sin no more ?
 
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Again, it's not really trying to JUSTIFY doing things as asking if that actually IS the rule. Just because the majority of Christians agree doesn't make it so.
 
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