TracyBluebird is offline TracyBluebird Post #1  November 12,2009, 4:24pm
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What is anger, elevated frustration?

I have been giving this a lot of thought lately, mostly because my profile says if I don't express my anger, I must be holding it in, or I avoid things or I act like a doormat.

I don't think so. I am a brutally honest person, but I just don't have to SCREAM about it. I really don't get angry.

Sure, I have been angry at times in my life, at the beginning of my marital issues I was, but now I think my attitude towards my ex is more frustration or exasperation or profound pity, but not anger.

I am so incredibly thankful for the peace in my life; I more often find humor in things that used to make me angry.

A verse was given to me, I mean God just planted in right in my heart, in the middle of the turmoil leading to my divorce.

Romans 15:13 May the God of hope, fill you with all joy, and peace, as you trust in Him.

I probably have said that thousands of times over and over and over, tears pouring down my face out of sheer joy. Maybe I don't get angry as an answer to a prayer. If this is so, Praise Him!
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TracyBluebird wrote :

A verse was given to me, I mean God just planted in right in my heart, in the middle of the turmoil leading to my divorce.

Romans 15:13 May the God of hope, fill you with all joy, and peace, as you trust in Him.

I probably have said that thousands of times over and over and over, tears pouring down my face out of sheer joy. Maybe I don't get angry as an answer to a prayer. If this is so, Praise Him!
Hi TracyBluebird!! He's so good to anticipate our needs, isn't He?!!!

I can relate to what you are describing. The more I trust in Him and lean not on my own understanding, the more I acknowledge His Sovereignty--recognizing nothing happens that He doesn't allow to happen-- and the more I acknowledge His goodness, the more peace, joy and love blot out all the anger and frustration. All that's left is LOVE!!

The only thing I find myself getting angry about these days is legalistic, religious, "pharisee-ical" attitudes. AARGH!!! (I figure I'm in good company because that's who Jesus was angry with too!! )
 
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Hi TracyBluebird!! He's so good to anticipate our needs, isn't He?!!!
Oh yes! Due to some really weird circumstances, I ended up at our final custody hearing with no lawyer. I just sat there and took what ever the lawyer dealt out, and felt like Christ was standing behind me holding me. Tears of pure submission just poured out. When I got to my friend's house, I was just numb. On her TV was a verse Philllipians 1:27-28, basically saying to keep being me, their words would punish them, and God would take care of it. Been leaving it in His hand's since.

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The only thing I find myself getting angry about these days is legalistic, religious, "pharisee-ical" attitudes. AARGH!!! (I figure I'm in good company because that's who Jesus was angry with too!! )
I am at this point handing it over to justice under God. I think since I changed some things in my eh profile, I have weeded out some people...I stated in "something you should know about me" "Sanctimonious people make me uncomfortable. I feel their judgemental, negative attitudes are counterintuitive to Christ's teachings. I try more to live and love like Christ instead of talking about it."

When I first joined eh, I sort of turned down the volume on my personality somewhat, but then realized that was what got me in trouble the first time! I am now honest, and will hand you the entire, big, fat, Blondie and Dagwood sandwich that is me! I gotta be me, and if God has someone out there for me, He will lead me to him, and in the mean time I will just keep serving Him. No greater love than His.

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WYskywatcher wrote :
I can relate to what you are describing. The more I trust in Him and lean not on my own understanding, the more I acknowledge His Sovereignty--recognizing nothing happens that He doesn't allow to happen-- and the more I acknowledge His goodness, the more peace, joy and love blot out all the anger and frustration. All that's left is LOVE!!
I think God gave me you tonight also! I have just kind of had a lot going on lately, sucking the energy out of me, and it irks me when I stop leaning on God, when He is always there for me. I have refuge in Him always, but still, after all I have been through, I forget?!

These other verses also speaks to what you are saying from Romans 5:And we[b] rejoice in the hope of the glory of God. 3Not only so, but we[c] also rejoice in our sufferings, because we know that suffering produces perseverance; 4perseverance, character; and character, hope. 5And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.
6You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. 7Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. 8But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Thanks for writing. I hope you have a great Friday. I think we need to pull out the house oars it's been raining so much.
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I think God gave me you tonight also! I have just kind of had a lot going on lately, sucking the energy out of me, and it irks me when I stop leaning on God, when He is always there for me. I have refuge in Him always, but still, after all I have been through, I forget?!
Yep. lol. Me too. It occured to me one day, as I was wallowing in doubt and worry (again), that I was just like the Israelites wandering in the desert, doubting over and over again even after He had shown Himself to them in amazing ways. My thought was, Oh dear Lord! Please don't let it take me 40 years like it took them!!

I used to judge those silly Israelites for doubting all the time. Now, I see how they are a mirror image of ME!! The more I study and understand them, the more I understand myself and grasp His goodness, faithfulness, trustworthiness and LOVE.

Thanks for starting this thread. I love to hear stories about how He is working in others lives. It just reminds me of His biggness!! Man! He is always at work. He doesn't let one single life slip through the cracks. He's always working to show Himself faithful and good!! Ahhh!! I could just go on and on!!!

Wishing you an extra blessed Friday!!
 
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Yep. lol. Me too.

My thought was, Oh dear Lord! Please don't let it take me 40 years like it took them!!

I used to judge those silly Israelites for doubting all the time. Now, I see how they are a mirror image of ME!! The more I study and understand them, the more I understand myself and grasp His goodness, faithfulness, trustworthiness and LOVE.

Thanks for starting this thread. I love to hear stories about how He is working in others lives. It just reminds me of His biggness!! Man! He is always at work. He doesn't let one single life slip through the cracks. He's always working to show Himself faithful and good!! Ahhh!! I could just go on and on!!!

Wishing you an extra blessed Friday!!
I never thought I would get to the point praising him for suffering, but if it weren't for that, I would not know the deep compassion. Do you know the song by Casting Crowns called"Praise You in This Storm?"

So if we were like the Israelites and it took us this long, praise Him for that too!

Look forward to hearing from you again on the boards. Have a great Friday also.
 
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Sorry all, but \i am not going to join the hallelujah I never get angry squad. I do get angry and and I believe the Bible does not say that is a sin. In fact, it say "Be angry and sin not." \

Anger is an emotion, an honest emotion and can best be addressed when honestly admitted. God made us emotional beings and in the Psalms emotional beings express raw emotions even to the point of wishing harm to their enemies. No, I am not advocating violence -- quite the opposite. I am advocating honestly taking emotions to God so that we can talk to him about what we need to deal with those emotions in productive and life giving ways.

You see, that is what I think it means by being angry but not sinning. God felt anger and not just at those who were so called pharisical Christians .... he felt hurt and anger at his poeple when they didn't get what he was trying to tell them. He felt anger at those who abused and hurt his loved ones. God felt anger and we are made in his image. It is a part of the reality of who we are.

That is great if you have learned to deal your anger/frustration/hurt/ or whatever name you want to give it. But I don't think the answer is in burying it. I think there are people who truly need our support who would read a thread like this and feel alienated at the very place they need to know the God who can help them through the raw emotions in our lives. I praise God if you have learned to deal with raw emotions in life giving ways.

Just realize that when we try to paint a rosy, aren't I victorious view of our faith, we may miss the real message of change that comes with our emotions. How do you think Mothers Against Drunk Drivers formed or how women got the vote in many countries or how slavery got its end or prison reforms and the like took place? People got angry.

Then they faced the thing that made them angry and like the laments directed to God in the Psalms ask the next question of what is was they really want. They went on to find the resources to do what they need, in the same way the laments lead us to look and see what it is of God that lets us trust him. And lastly, they believed that their actions could make a difference for good, that like the Psalmist, they would find the reason to praise.

I am angry today. The son of a woman I know died this week by his own choice. I can't yet find anything to praise in the senselessness of that act even though I know those close to him are trying to say that maybe God allowed it becuase he would never get well. I have walked in the shoes of his pain and can't help but struggle with the fact that I made it through and he didn't.

So now to ask the question, what can I do to use this strong raw emotion in a life give way in the future. God is a redemptive God as seen is his giving of Jesus even for those he expressed anger toward in the past. He knows my heart and he will heal this and use it in strengthening ways if I in honesty open it to him.

Anger is real and is not ungodly. What matters is what we do with it.
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TracyBluebird wrote :
What is anger, elevated frustration?
I honestly think it is. With ADHD, your frustration level can be extremely high. That's why ADHD kids are sometimes seen as having anger issues. It's actually frustration issues.
 
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Wow, coeuri! I apologize if I left the impression with my posts that "anger is ungodly." Not sure how that came across.

(see what I mean, rix)
 
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I am angry today. The son of a woman I know died this week by his own choice. I can't yet find anything to praise in the senselessness of that act even though I know those close to him are trying to say that maybe God allowed it becuase he would never get well. I have walked in the shoes of his pain and can't help but struggle with the fact that I made it through and he didn't.
Oh, coeuri! I am so sorry to hear that. How very sad.
 
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