dwreese182 is offline dwreese182 Post #1  October 22,2009, 11:58am
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According to some scholars, the etymology of the word "cannabis" and similar terms in all the languages of the Near East may be traced to the Hebrew "qaneh bosm", which is one of the herbs God commanded Moses to include in his preparation of sacred anointing perfume in Exodus 30:23; the Hebrew term also appears in Isaiah 43:24; Jeremiah 6:20; Ezekiel 27:19; and Song of Songs 4:14. Deuterocanonical and canonical references to the patriarchs Adam, Noah, Abragam and Moses "burning incense before the Lord" are also applied. It is also said that cannabis was the first plant to grow on King Solomon's grave.

What's your interpritation?
 
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I'm in favor of the sacramental use. Of course, I would eat more bread and wine at communion.
 
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I did some research based on your question. I'd love to see other sources if you have them, but this view seems to come from a sole scholarly source: the 20th century anthropologist Sula Benet. Unfortunately it was difficult to find good sources as most of the results were pro-marijuana opinion pages, but everything I viewed traced back to Benet as the source of this meme.

As for Benet's work itself, there is considerable reason to doubt her methodology and conclusions...I found the following article to be a good critique of her work on this issue:

Does q'nah-bosem mean cannabis?


Ultimately, I wouldn't really be shaken if Benet's assertion really was the case: her conclusion just doesn't seem to be supported by the evidence, and the issue on the whole seems to me a distraction from central issues of faith.
 
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it would not matter to me one way or the other. in fact, in light of the biblical ban on reproducing the incense for personal use- if you are correct about the interpretation of "qaneh bosm" it would reinforce my belief that "ganga" should not be used for personal use.

exodus 30:34-38

Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take fragrant spices—gum resin, onycha and galbanum—and pure frankincense, all in equal amounts, and make a fragrant blend of incense, the work of a perfumer. It is to be salted and pure and sacred. Grind some of it to powder and place it in front of the Testimony in the Tent of Meeting, where I will meet with you. It shall be most holy to you. Do not make any incense with this formula for yourselves; consider it holy to the LORD. Whoever makes any like it to enjoy its fragrance must be cut off from his people."
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Yes. I'm not sure about the whole ganja thing. I'll leave that to the Rastafarians and the resurrection of Haile Selassie. However, we are given the scriptural admonition to enjoy "every herb bearing seed." And, what better way to follow scripture than imbibing in the "herb superb."

However, I am convinced the "manna from heaven" was psilocybin. After all, why else would they be wondering around in circles for forty years, hearing "the voice of God?" They were tripping on shrooms! Check out the outfit of the high priest. The guy was dressed like a giant mushroom.
 
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rix wrote :
I'm in favor of the sacramental use. Of course, I would eat more bread and wine at communion.
I guarantee that you would see an increased turnout for church as well. LoL A snack break would need to be implemented though.
 
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notyet wrote :
exodus 30:34-38

Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take fragrant spices—gum resin, onycha and galbanum—and pure frankincense, all in equal amounts, and make a fragrant blend of incense, the work of a perfumer. It is to be salted and pure and sacred. Grind some of it to powder and place it in front of the Testimony in the Tent of Meeting, where I will meet with you. It shall be most holy to you. Do not make any incense with this formula for yourselves; consider it holy to the LORD. Whoever makes any like it to enjoy its fragrance must be cut off from his people."
I don't know. I think that it is up to the individual. You could interpret this in different ways. What do you consider personal use? I consider doing something for your own personal pleasure or gain as "personal use". Is praying "personal use" though? Would it be alright to implement this for prayer? As this is not meant to be for personal gain. So long as your intentions were sincere to God, and not to use it as an excuse to get high, I wouldn't see any issue with this. Legality is a different matter though.

I personally have tried it and don't like it. So this ability to do it would never even apply to me. Just a different topic to think about than the standard Christian arguments that happen here.
 
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Ultimately, I wouldn't really be shaken if Benet's assertion really was the case: her conclusion just doesn't seem to be supported by the evidence, and the issue on the whole seems to me a distraction from central issues of faith.
Many of the issues taken on by scholars are a distraction from the central issues of faith. Not to mention there are quite a few "theories" (meaning not proven to be a fact) about faith itself. Actually, I see most Religions simply as theories. Very few things about religion can actually be proven, aside from a book. That is why you have a "belief". Beliefs are not facts, they are a faith or a belief that something is true. There is really only one way to prove any given faith as a truth, and most people don't want to do that prematurely.
 
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dwreese182 wrote :
Actually, I see most Religions simply as theories. Very few things about religion can actually be proven, aside from a book. That is why you have a "belief". Beliefs are not facts, they are a faith or a belief that something is true. There is really only one way to prove any given faith as a truth, and most people don't want to do that prematurely.
I like this. It talks to dichotomy of me having a powerful and passionate belief in Christ, but often problems with the "rules"

It probably also speaks to the difficulty in finding someone compatible with my beliefs. Where I don't impress my beliefs on others, like they must believe everything I do, it's hard to find a like minded person. We all had different paths which led us to our beliefs. I try to live and love like Christ. I have a hard time with people who are judgemental of others, especially non-believers. We aren't supposed to criticize them, we are supposed to love them.

As far as the Ganja, I wouldn't be interested, but I wouldn't say it is wrong for someone else. If it was impressed upon me for its usage as it became a new one of the "rules," I would have a problem with that also.
 
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I have been thinking about this thread for a few days now and woundering what to say in response.

First comming from a man that had used many different drugs in the past I speak from experience.

I think that you are looking for validation and support in your use of drugs.

I think you should abandon the law of the land and common sense and go for it and toke away. Why dont you lace it with some embalming fluid while your at it and really get high.

I think you should go ahead and do what is right in your own eyes and just live with the consequence of your decision.
 
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