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Correction. "'Belief' that Jesus is God". There is no actual evidence that Jesus was born a virgin or that he was resurrected (spelling?). On the flip side, there is also no evidence supporting that it didn't happen. However, there is also no evidence to disprove that there is a Chinese tea cup floating around Saturn.

If you believe the word of god (aka Bible, a book) is fact, then you just merely "believe" that it is a fact, which doesn't make it anymore true. Like I said in another post. There is only one way to prove that any religion is the truth, and again, most aren't willing to do that prematurely.

is it possible to hijack my own thread?

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you are right- much of the bible cannot be proven scientifically. but then again, it is not a scientific text. it is a religious text that records historical events. and history cannot be proven scientifically- or sometimes at all.

to go to the absurd- prove to me that abraham lincoln existed. i'll wait...

his documents? his manuscripts? prove to me that is his hand writing. his tomb you say? let's exhume the body and run dna tests. us government won't let you do that? sorry! and even if you could- all that you would prove is that there is a body buried under a stone that says, "here lies lincoln" or words to that effect.

but we know he lived, right? yes we do. and i also believe he did. but that he lived and did all that is claimed of him cannot be proven scientifically.

to go to my other favorite extreme- socrates. he lived, right? an historical figure of great importance. no one doubts that he gave a speech to the athenian republic condemning them and was then summarily executed. but he never wrote a thing! not one thing. where is his body? his tomb?

the only evidence we have of his life is from the writings of one of his disciples. one! and yet no one doubts that socrates lived. but that disciple, plato, surely we can prove he lived, right? the oldest manuscript of plato's apology that we have dates to about 900 a.d., over 1,300 years after the execution of socrates! the next oldest manuscript is in venice and dates from the 13th century a.d.!!

the difference between the life of christ and the life of socrates? jesus' life is better documented. Rylands Papyrus contains portions of the gospel of john and dates to less than one hundred years after the crucifixion of jesus. socrates life was recorded by one contemporary. jesus' by at least eight contemporaries- at least five of whom were eye witnesses.

but we doubt that jesus lived and did all that was recorded of him while socrates is taught in every school. the reason? jesus claimed to be god. and more- was god. and if he is god- and he is- that demands we take action on his claim.

and few of us want to do that. none of us want to be accountable. we all want to live as we desire. i'll end with a reference. i have posted it numerous times these last few months. we can all of look it up. and we should.

romans 3:10-18

I am arguing his virgin birth, claim as a god and supposed resurrection. Which I believe that no one witnessed, correct me if I'm wrong.

All three of those things had multiple witnesses, and the as for the latter two items, Jesus himself proclaimed he was the Son of God, and he also appeared to many disciples after his resurrection as a witness to his own resurrection. His virgin birth was of course witnessed by at least both his human parents.

Back to being the son of God, there was also the testimony of John the Baptist and the sign of the spirit descending on him as a dove.

There was also the mountaintop where I believe it was James and Peter who witnessed the voice of God saying "This is my son".

Correction. "'Belief' that Jesus is God". There is no actual evidence that Jesus was born a virgin or that he was resurrected (spelling?). On the flip side, there is also no evidence supporting that it didn't happen. However, there is also no evidence to disprove that there is a Chinese tea cup floating around Saturn.

If you believe the word of god (aka Bible, a book) is fact, then you just merely "believe" that it is a fact, which doesn't make it anymore true. Like I said in another post. There is only one way to prove that any religion is the truth, and again, most aren't willing to do that prematurely.

but i have also learned that i learn best by communicating with those i disagree with. if i only speak to those who agree with me, or read those papers or watch that television show that i agree with- i never stretch my understanding of any topic.