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I've always had trouble understanding Matthew 19:7-8 "7 They say to him: Why then did Moses command to give a bill of divorce, and to put away? 8 He saith to them: Because Moses by reason of the hardness of your heart permitted you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. " Truth cannot contradict Truth, so why did God let Moses give this bill to His people when they looked up to Him with authority? When Moses permitted this, was it God's will? Did God only "allow" this to happen as He would sometimes allow evil to happen? I guess this question can also apply with the "eye for an eye" verse.
 
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God lets us do whatever we want. I think in only very rare situations does he force us to do something. Remember Ps 32:8-10. God says he will instruct us, teach us, counsel and watch over us. But he does not say he will force us to do anything. He even goes on to tell us to NOT be like a horse or mule that must be lead with a bit and bridle. God clearly does NOT want to force us to do what he wants. We are free to make our own decisions. God wants us to listen to his counsel and trust in him and be surrounded by his love.
 
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Sometimes I think that as Christians we put too much emphasis on certain issues. When Jesus said it was permitted due to the hardness of man's heart - Was he referring to the man(or worman) who cannot remain faithful - or the faithful partner who cannot forgive their partners weakness?
 
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That particular verse is from the Old Testament. The Lord gave us some different advice as His people progressed thru the years. Thus, the New Testament is for this generation. And remember that MAN changed a lot of the bible over the centuries. We all have free agency. Whether we follow His will and commandments is our choice. Life is a test; an opportunity to learn and grow from our mistakes. And to hopefully come closer to Him. This is a test-only a test.
 
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God created a perfect world...Sin is not what He intended...Death is not what He intended...Divorce is not what He intended...
Thus, He executed His perfect plan for an imperfect world!
 
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febee wrote :
I've always had trouble understanding Matthew 19:7-8 "7 They say to him: Why then did Moses command to give a bill of divorce, and to put away? 8 He saith to them: Because Moses by reason of the hardness of your heart permitted you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. " Truth cannot contradict Truth, so why did God let Moses give this bill to His people when they looked up to Him with authority? When Moses permitted this, was it God's will? Did God only "allow" this to happen as He would sometimes allow evil to happen? I guess this question can also apply with the "eye for an eye" verse.
You are right to be confused when it comes to this topic. The church in general has failed when it comes to this serious topic. It is much like when God says He is not willing for any to perish but that all come to the knowledge of God. Why is it that people still perish in spite of the provision of Christ. Those who reject the will of God will pay a price for their rejection. When it comes to salvation this price is eternal seperation from Him in Hell. When it comes to divorce He says in Vs 6 what God has joined together let not man seperate. It is on the part of the one doing the divorce who has the hardened heart. This will have a price to pay in this world even though it does not have a eternal price. Everyone who marries choses the mate that they marry. No one twists their arm. Some will say what about in the case of abuse. It is obvious to seperate from such case. But It is not required to divorce. Some will say what about adultry. God gives freedom to divorce in such case but He doesn't give freedom to remarry. Their is much more on this topic that I have studied concerning divorce being divorced twice to the same woman. Her being the one doing the divorcing. If we believe the word of God we would be willing to follow it inspite our desires.
 
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FaithNGod, I am curious. What brings people here who don't believe there is anything after divorce no matter what the cause?
 
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FaithNGod, I am curious. What brings people here who don't believe there is anything after divorce no matter what the cause?
Thankyou for the question. This is a topic near and dear to my heart. Just as it is my desire to share the good news of the love of God for all people through His son Jesus. I have experience and valuable information that i believe could make a difference in the life of whoever might hear. Why is it that it has been proven that 2nd and 3rd marriages have a greater failure rate? It is my desire to hopefully prevent the hurt and destruction that comes from divorce. Just as it is my desire to prevent the loss of life in hell. Neither of these topics are popular to the one who is not willing to follow the way that God has established in His word. It is all there and you could find it for your self. If you need help finding the scripture that refers to this topic I would love to help. Being divorced myself I had to do a study to find out where I stood as well.
 
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FaithNGod, I am curious. What brings people here who don't believe there is anything after divorce no matter what the cause?
Besides what topic do you have question about? Being a Christian single or answering the question did God allow us to divorce?
 
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coeuri wrote :
FaithNGod, I am curious. What brings people here who don't believe there is anything after divorce no matter what the cause?
Coeuri, I also wanted to say that I have read a few of you posts and think you have a lot of wisdom as well. It is good to answer you
 
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