Non-conservative Christian men?

The majority of people don't realize that politics are not plotted on a line. They are actually plotted in a 2-D graph. Many people are aware of the left (democrats/liberals)which holds to the doctrine that the federal government should allow people to do as they please socially while controlling the economy. The right doctine (republicans/conservatives) is to regulate private life while taking a laissez-faire approach to the economy. That is just the x-axis. On the y-axis, you have the libertarian and totalitarian ideals which are independant of the two main political parties. Libertarianism holds that the federal government should minimize its regulation of the economy and private life and allow the states to regulate themselves instead. Beyond libertarianism lies anarchism which believes there shouldn't even be a government. Totalitarianism (despotism, tyranny, populist, socialism, communism, fascism etc.) holds that the federal government should hold total controlover the economy and private life.

Ouch. Does anyone here believe in evolution at all?


Correct spelling: independEnt, explanAtion.


disclaimer: please, don't think I am judging you for misspelling some words. I just like to educate people. (Jesus did, too, right?)

Ouch. Does anyone here believe in evolution at all?


Correct spelling: independEnt, explanAtion.


disclaimer: please, don't think I am judging you for misspelling some words. I just like to educate people. (Jesus did, too, right?)

Ouch. Does anyone here believe in evolution at all?

I'm glad someone brought this up. I've actually seen this graph with some of the world's more famous leaders plotted into it. It's quite eye opening.

Indeed you can do just that, and you should. But again, that doesn't require approval of the sinner's actions. God might have accepted me, but He still doesn't approve if I sin. He convicts, He tells me when I've done wrong, and if I'm really resisting, He punishes me for it.

Thanks to all for a good discussion.


As to a brief statement of faith, to me the best is the Apostles Creed. I said it every Sunday growing up and it is still the best short answer to the question: what do I believe?


As to authority, I have to say, pray for those in authority -- especially those with whom you disagree (I made a little mental reminder to pray for the President whenever I see a flag...). And then vote for/support Ron Paul, haha! He wants to do away with most of the government.


Finally, on abortion, has anyone ever thought that maybe they are"playing"on this issue. I mean, say what you will, but the fact is that for many years, the "pro life" crowd was in office, and it still is, and what have they done to limit abortion. There have been things done at the state level, but at the federal level...not too much. I just wonder if they cynically bring this out, like the flag burning amendment, every time there is an election just to motivate the base and then when they are in office, kind of forget about it. It just seems odd tome that more has not been done on that front.

So 70% of our nation has brought their faiths with them well that's of their own free will


However did we SHOW them what ours was? no, we just sat by and then decided Well it offended their poor wittle feelings when we told them about Jesus.


NEWS FLASH!!


Jesus offended a whole city of people with what he said, the Pharisees who were the touchy feely preachers of God's word even disliked him.


It's time those of us who KNOW what's Right and Know what this nation was founded upon stand up be heard and be counted! We've sat back for too long and it's NOT too late to turn this nation around!


We need to return to God and stop accepting such corrupt behavior in the nation, and those of you who think it's alright can understand this. Many in Sodom & Gommorah felt it right as well and we see how well THAT worked out now didn't we.





Next subject the Rending unto Caesar


We were told that about the $$$


Who's face is on the money? The Presidents who led our government so naturally we SHOULD pay taxes, however that doesn't go so far as to AGREE with everything they do that's why we have Freedom of Speech and Assembly.


We're also told to give to God to whom all things are due, after all if he hadn't created us in the first place there wouldn't be governments nor money.

On the one hand, corn (ala maize) has grown from the size of a string bean to a football after hundreds of years of farmingselection. On the other hand, scientists generally agree that crocodiles have changed little since the beginning of time. One thing that can be more accurately measured is that humans have been becoming taller over the years. Over 200 years ago, George Washington was considered a giant at 6'2", but he'd be considered roughly average height by today's standards...


The thing is that the Bible is a theology book (which has been translated several times like a game of telephone). Did you know that Hebrew is written without vowels, spaces, or punctuation? How do you read the following (vowels make this example more straightforward): 'GODISNOWHERE' ?


Scientific meathod was created only a few hundred years ago. All the events described in the creation story happen in creation. A molecular cloud forms into a nebula thatforms into a solar system.The earth forms and develops an atmosphere from gassesspewed from volcanic actions. Tectonic plates form as the planet cools forming land masses. Plants could feed off all the CO2 thrown off by the previous volcanic actions. Life forms in the sea, air and land; and humans are created in the mix. Can we in our limited wisdom truly say that God's 'day'translates tothe same duration as our day? Concepts that science still fails to answer are first cause, first mover, and the synthesis of complex life from a vacuum. The big bang theory contradicts the rule that objects that are at rest tend to stay at rest. How can action spring from inaction in the vacuum of space? In conclusion, science (evolution) supports the creation story (even if not in a literal sense).