Non-conservative Christian men?

Yes they exist, but they're an endangered species, essentially. As J said above, the abortion thing is unequivocally nothing less than murder to most of us. Christian marriage is between a man and a woman, not two women and not two men. Just because the state declares it a marriage in the secular legal sense doesn't make it a marriage before God (conversely, just because the state says that a man and woman aren't legally married doesn't mean they aren't before God either).


God is love. Love does not include nor require acceptance or approval of sin or unbiblical ideas.


Good luck with your search. Your dating pool is pretty narrow and you're going to need all the luck you can get.

You also might want to read something about noted Christian author Tony Campolo. Here is a quote from Wikipedia about him: "Anthony "Tony" Campolo (born 1935) is a well-known American pastor , author , sociologist , and public speaker known for challenging Evangelical Christians by illustrating how their faith can offer solutions in a world of complexity. With his liberal political and social attitudes, he has been a major proponent for progressive thought and reform in the evangelical community." You are not alone...

"be sure that they believe that Jesus actually rose from the dead or else you might be getting Christianity light..." No, in that "or else" example you WILL be getting HERESY. Worship styles, church government, and our conduct as citizens all may be open for debate. Absolutely not open for debate, in my opinion, are these: 1) the sovereignity of God the Father, and such of His nature that He has revealed to mankind; 2) the person and work of Jesus Christ (esp. His Messiahship, His perfect atonement for all human sin, and His resurrection and ascension); and 3) the divine inspiration and perfect integrity of the Bible as it exists today, without any additions, subtractions, or emendations. J Aeon and others, feel free to add to this list as you wish. The hour is late, and I am tired; but I cannot shut down for the night after having read this thread without standing up for the Gospel truth. I appreciate reading the posts of others who are doing the same.

I have to say, it is very, very discouraging to see Christians fighting among each other....it's one of the reason I dislike going to church too often. I realize we're all human and have our problems, but shouldn't we show a better example to those outside the church? I love God and I've met many inspiring Chirstians, even if I don't agree with their politics. I realize people are afraid of being misled, of following false profits and other terrible things to contemplate. But is that really a reason to condemn people who truly try to follow God to the best of their ability? Who are inspired by God and his love for all humankind and the world in which we live? I'm pretty sure the disciples did not agree on politics or the essentials of heaven and God's word, but they were all chosen by Jesus to follow Him. Can't we be the same?


As a personal frustration, I am tired of some conservative Christians telling me I'm a heathen who is going to hell simply because I care more about people who are already alive and in need of help than in someone not born yet. It's not that I approve of abortion, but I think everyone would benefit if we looked at the reasons why people want to have abortions rather than simply banning it? Have any of us actually supported those struggling mothers, or simply told them they are immoral? How many of us have seriously thought about adoption or improving the foster care system rather than picketing in front of panned parenthood? I know there are people who do these things, and I admire them. I just wish people who disagree with me didn't feel it necessary to say God doesn't love me, that I am not a Christian, etc.... I know that it isn't true, but I would like the support of my fellow believers, even when I am mistaken in some of my beliefs.

You wont hear me say that. God originally put humans on the earth to take care of the whole earth, not just ourselves.

We just blather on about "respecting authority" but never calling it to account. Go figure.

You can accept the sinner without accepting the sin - God did it for us.

I do not support abortion. I would never encourage anyone to get one. I do believe it is murder. I do not believe making it illegal will stop it. God values the mother's life too.


This is not a Chrisitan nation - 70% of Americans do not claim affiliation with the Christian faith. We do not have the right to impose our morals on those around us. We can talk to them, befriend them, and simultaneously disagree - in a loving way - with how they choose to live their life. They should be able to visit each other in the hospital.


Gays are people too - people that God loves. No parents are perfect. My parents were not Christians and I found the faith. And there does happen to be some evidence that homosexuality is connected with a gene - I won't argue that that is what God intended. Think of it this way - all of creation was corrupted at the fall - down to the molecular level. Man was perfect until that moment - all genetic disorders we have today are mutations. Maybe it's a mutation. Are you going to discriminate against someone with dwarfism? What about immoral hetero parents? Sin is sin. In God's eyes a murder is no worse than a lie, one person's sexual sin is no different than another - no matter who it is with.


I also have no problem stepping up to a debate. I'm pretty good at it actually - I've had lots of practice with some very close minded people. I do love God, and I really do try not to compromise. That is why I try to love.

Finally, on abortion, has anyone ever thought that maybe they are"playing"on this issue.