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Courtieur is offline Courtieur Post #1  August 1,2008, 3:54pm
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I have a question. Do you guys think there is a big difference in friendliness and humility with latino's who are let say, still living in their native home country, or those that are fist generation in the U.S. compared to those that have been in the states for a while?


Somos mas caprichosos los que vivimes en el E.U. ? Perdemos nuestras raices y tambien se van nuestros modales?


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What I can say from what I've experienced while visiting each year is that most Latinos who live in the U.S. are less friendly than Latinos in Mexico. Everytime I visit I get the "Buenos dias senorita" by people I pass by on the street. It's refreshing to hear, because there have been times at work where I've greeted my fellow colleagues and have received no response. I think that somewhere down the line when we come to this country that whole friendliness and humility gets lost with trying to assimilate to the american culture, where everything is rushed and automatic.
 
 
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What I can say from what I've experienced while visiting each year is that most Latinos who live in the U.S. are less friendly than Latinos in Mexico. Everytime I visit I get the "Buenos dias senorita" by people I pass by on the street. It's refreshing to hear, because there have been times at work where I've greeted my fellow colleagues and have received no response. I think that somewhere down the line when we come to this country that whole friendliness and humility gets lost with trying to assimilate to the american culture, where everything is rushed and automatic.
Yes, this reminds me of that commercial I saw which as usual, can't remember what it was for but the woman in the commercial was speaking about her assymilation into american culture where she learns to greet her visitors with a handshake instead of a kiss on the cheek. Frankly, I prefer the latino culture but how do we keep from loosing it in our lives, and our following generations? There is so much influence that many Latino family, 3rd generation U.S. families seem to loose the complete spanish language even. It is really making me wonder... shold I just then go South of the border to find me a good woman? I mean, I don't want her barefoot and pregnant but would like some work ethic and a bit of ambition and drive to go along with that loving feeling. The latino women raised in the states don't seem to come close to the manners and politeness of those south of the border. Maybe I should look fo my future wife south of the border. hhmmm
 
 
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Yes, this reminds me of that commercial I saw which as usual, can't remember what it was for but the woman in the commercial was speaking about her assymilation into american culture where she learns to greet her visitors with a handshake instead of a kiss on the cheek. Frankly, I prefer the latino culture but how do we keep from loosing it in our lives, and our following generations? There is so much influence that many Latino family, 3rd generation U.S. families seem to loose the complete spanish language even. It is really making me wonder... shold I just then go South of the border to find me a good woman? I mean, I don't want her barefoot and pregnant but would like some work ethic and a bit of ambition and drive to go along with that loving feeling. The latino women raised in the states don't seem to come close to the manners and politeness of those south of the border. Maybe I should look fo my future wife south of the border. hhmmm
I see your point, my family is very much the kiss on the cheek type greeters. When my sister got married, my brother-in-law who is also Latino would question her as to why we greet with a kiss if we barely knew them. I think it all comes to how you were brought up, if your parents greeted friends and relatives in this way then, naturally you might do the same. As for the language, it is sad to see this as well, but once again the parent's responsibility. Good luck with the search for your future wife...don't give up hope on all U.S. Latinas...we are not ALL alike [img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-smile.gif[/img]
 
 
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Thanks Toya. Hugs and kisses for keeping me company on the subject. I'm still dating women here in the U.S, and no I haven't gone searching for my future wife down south but was just curious of other's opinions. And yes, I know you are not all alike my dear. [img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-wink.gif[/img]


Maybe I should setup a BBQ and invite all the EH Latino's to to show the others what a warm culture we have. hhhmmm. Hopefully that won't create further competition for me afterwards and make it harder for me. LOL. I'm reminded of the movie "fools rush in". When an American is thrown into the culture of a latino woman.


Thanks Toya.
 
 
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Its quite the American influence when latinos start loosing their customs as well as language.


I was in Chicago for the NAHJ conference ( National Association of Hispanic Journalist) and was shocked tofind outour ceremony/gala was all in ENGLISH! It goes to say, where our influences are.


Saludos a todos
 
 
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followmesky,204334 wrote :

Its quite the American influence when latinos start loosing their customs as well as language.


I was in Chicago for the NAHJ conference ( National Association of Hispanic Journalist) and was shocked to find out our ceremony/gala was all in ENGLISH! It goes to say, where our influences are.


Saludos a todos
It's hard because of criticism from others in regards to our language and values. There are those people that say, "You're in the united states so speak english" while there are those that say "embrace your roots". You cant please everybody but I do wish it was easier to mix it up and have it be politically correct to be able to have such a ceremony in the native language. however, then those that have lost the language or can't understand will be up in arms about it. My father was never americanized. He immigrated legally, worked, and got his citizenship but he was always surrounded by latinos working in the fields, and never really learned the english language afterwards either. His social circle was always laborers who never knew english. Yes he could have made the extra effort but he never did and I listen to this critisism from others, and feel bad my dad becomes a target of this. However, I'm proud of my father's values, hard work and example he has given me, even if he never learned english. It does not in my eyes make him any less of a person the way americanized latino's make it seem with harsh statements like this.
 
 
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Hmmm. I do not understand the term or meaning of AMERICANIZED Latinos. Actually I do not like or accept labels what so ever. As a Puerto Rican, many Hispanic ethnic backgrounds are grouped or mixed. Puerto Ricans have dual citizenship and therefore, cultural retention is simply a politically or ethnically sensitized issue.


I carry on many of the traditions handed down by my family and I embrace it. What I do not do is act as if this is ALL I am. Better still, it is just a facet which enhances my existence. It is not a badge or flag to wave around.


On the topic of language, this is a very old and sore topic which is both politically motivated and volatile at times. I am English dominant and take great strides to enforce a mastery of the language since I am born and raised here. It is the same in Puerto Rico except the cultural intensity establishes a consistent Spanish dominance – rightly so as the native language. Of course, formal Spanish language is based on the Castilian teaching – this is my preference in mastery of the language.
With all of this, I do not see the differences. I only notice the people who claim differences based of familiarity and comfort zones.
 
 
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Hmmm. I do not understand the term or meaning of AMERICANIZED Latinos. Actually I do not like or accept labels what so ever. As a Puerto Rican, many Hispanic ethnic backgrounds are grouped or mixed. Puerto Ricans have dual citizenship and therefore, cultural retention is simply a politically or ethnically sensitized issue.


I carry on many of the traditions handed down by my family and I embrace it. What I do not do is act as if this is ALL I am. Better still, it is just a facet which enhances my existence. It is not a badge or flag to wave around.


On the topic of language, this is a very old and sore topic which is both politically motivated and volatile at times. I am English dominant and take great strides to enforce a mastery of the language since I am born and raised here. It is the same in Puerto Rico except the cultural intensity establishes a consistent Spanish dominance – rightly so as the native language. Of course, formal Spanish language is based on the Castilian teaching – this is my preference in mastery of the language.
With all of this, I do not see the differences. I only notice the people who claim differences based of familiarity and comfort zones.
Well I'd hope you are not dismissing my observations meerely because you don't see them yourself. That doesn't make me feel very happy. [img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-frown.gif[/img] Personally, i want to believe in bigfoot even if i haven't seen him, and give him the bennefit of a doubt.. When I say "americanized" I guess I really mean to describe full emersion into the culture, or at least a change in attitude and outlook in comparisson to those who still have constant influence with people closer to their native culture. Many people who are 3rd generation latinos act completely different from those that are not living in California (can't say about the rest of the U.S.) and it's a pretty obvious difference. These are not meant to be blanket statements in any way, as I'm just wondering since these have been my experiences with the latinos here in So Cali. You may not like or accept labels any more than I do, but ignoring them doesn't make them dissapear. There will always be someone out there that proppagates them or resurrects them from thoughts past.


My thread is also solely about asking opinions about what i perceive, in order to get more thoughts from others on the subject, and my experiences in what I've observed are not offered here to upset anyone or bring up sore topics. These are meerely conversations, and not bashing of any kind to anyone so I hope it is seen solely as what it is.. just simple conversation about each other's thoughts. Ay caramba. ... se me esta calentando de mas el mole. [img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-wink.gif[/img]
 
 
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Well, it's a double edge razor blade when it comes to this topic. I personally (as we all) have seen the like and dislikes, not from other races, but from our own. My father was from Mexico City and would not stop preaching to me that college and an education come first. My friends and their mentors on the other hand, ridiculed me and tried to make me believe I didn't fit in because I now had a college degree and some how, thought I was better than everyone else because I had the knack to succeed. One thing I've noticed is that pride goes a long way in our culture, but so does jealousy.


When it comes down to it, I embrace my roots 100% and take pride that we are a hard working race, but when it comes down to the racial aspect, I consider myself 100% human and let my beliefs and work do the talking for me. I get tired of seeing people ride the coat tails of their peers and co-workers, when in reality, they don't have what it takes and don't put the effort in making it work, then go and pull the racial card.


I got over the Tequila thing in college, Tecate is my beer of choice, but will I admit that I will drink till I pass out and make it sound like it's a good thing....only when I'm trying to be funny!!!!
 
 
 
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