Americanized Latino's vs all naturale Latinos


 
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NerdyHobbit is offline NerdyHobbit Post #11  August 12,2008, 11:18pm
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On another note, I take every opportunity I can to speak spanish with everyone that speaks it or understands it. Recently in Las Vegas, I was speaking to a 76 year old from Puerto Rico in a diner at the Riviera. We talked about gambling, culture, favorite resorts, and listened to the amazing stories she had of seeing the greats like dean martin, sammy davis jr., and frank sinatra back in the day as a yound woman. How the Stardust had always been her favorite hotel and to her, had the best rooms the strip could offer, and how sad she was to see it go. To me, that was the most amazing conversation I had in Vegas the whole time I was there. Now that's what life is about!!!!!
 
 
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Well I'd hope you are not dismissing my observations meerely because you don't see them yourself. That doesn't make me feel very happy. [img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-frown.gif[/img] Personally, i want to believe in bigfoot even if i haven't seen him, and give him the bennefit of a doubt.. When I say "americanized" I guess I really mean to describe full emersion into the culture, or at least a change in attitude and outlook in comparisson to those who still have constant influence with people closer to their native culture. Many people who are 3rd generation latinos act completely different from those that are not living in California (can't say about the rest of the U.S.) and it's a pretty obvious difference. These are not meant to be blanket statements in any way, as I'm just wondering since these have been my experiences with the latinos here in So Cali. You may not like or accept labels any more than I do, but ignoring them doesn't make them dissapear. There will always be someone out there that proppagates them or resurrects them from thoughts past.


My thread is also solely about asking opinions about what i perceive, in order to get more thoughts from others on the subject, and my experiences in what I've observed are not offered here to upset anyone or bring up sore topics. These are meerely conversations, and not bashing of any kind to anyone so I hope it is seen solely as what it is.. just simple conversation about each other's thoughts. Ay caramba. ... se me esta calentando de mas el mole. [img]library/editor/plugins/emotions/img/smiley-wink.gif[/img]
No worries! I am surely not offended as much concerned how this type of topic can become a mindset. I chose not to use labels based on study and experience. If others employ them why perpetuate the myth?



As for culture and roots - love all of them and the variety which the world offers - not just in my back yard! It is the best thing to enjoy people everywhere!
 
 
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I think the culture is in the person and is based on how they were taught and grew up. Sometimes people change to try to fit in with the majority or to try to please others. We can only be what we are and should be proud of that.
 
 
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I guess I am what you would call an Americanized Latino. I was born and raised in Los Angeles, placed in private schools with a lot of white kids and never really embraced my roots while I was growing up. Although now I am learning more Spanish and more about Mexico. And no matter what I will always be a Latino in my heart, because you never forget how your parents raised you.


Now as an adult I guess I appear as white other due to my light skin and hazel eyes. So I see the racism that occurs from behind the closed doors from time to time. Like people will say racist things about latin people when they think none of 'them' are around.


However sometimes I have trouble dating latinas because I'm not fluent in Spanish and haven't retained a lot of my culture.


I think even if you are Americanized, if you are first or second generation, you still are not fully Americanized...you still feel latin blood pumping through your veins, and you still feel for other latin people trying to immigrate to the US and find a better life for themselves.


Guess I don't exactly fit into either the 'latin' group or the 'white' group, because even though both of my parents are from Mexico, a lot ofwho theywere and aregot lost in the transition from one generation to the next.
 
 
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Speaking as a Boricua (Puerto Rican) who was born on the island andraised in Brooklyn, NY, I was blessed to have had parents that instilled love for my "Patria." I grew up in a very Puerto Rican home rich with culture and pride for my people and heritage. When I stepped outside my home I mingled with others as a productive member of society, but I NEVER forgot who I was. I was taught to respect the differences of others, but to NEVER allow anyone to discredit who and what I am as a Boricua.


I am Boricua first and foremost and my people come from a mixture of african slaves, Spaniards and Taino Indian,so I am a mixture of all three. Many of my people can pass for white (fair skin and light eyes), or black (black skin and nappy hair) but when asked they will respond, "I am 100% Puerto Rican and with much honor!


We are all blessed to live in this land and have much to be thankful for, but not to the point where we forget from whence we came and look down on those who came to these shores as we once did....WITH NOTHING!


Regardless where you are from and what language you speak, embrace your ethnicity. No, its not "old fashioned" or "embarassing", it's who youARE and its the blood that runs through your veins and NOTHING you or anyone else can do will change that....you were born with it and you will die with it. You can deny it, cover it up, try to pass, whatever...but YOU will KNOW that deep down inside there is something in you that is undeniable...your heritage.


Therewas a time when youth used to be ashamed of their culture and the Spanish language. Now they are dying to learn it....you couldn't beg them to read a book about their history, now theyhunger forit!


Isn't it sad that just because we cross a body of water we are easily willing to trade something that is ours and pricless for something that truly holds no value to who we are and truly isn't ours?


My late father said it best: "El que niega su patria, niega la madre que lo pario!" "He who denies his homeland, denies the mother who gave birth to him!"
 
 
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What's that saying, oh ya. "you can take the Mexican out of Mexico but you can't take Mexico out of the Mexican." Listen, both my parents were born in Mexico. I've spent a lot of time visting to notice that MEXICAN MEN born and bred in Mexico are machista's. It doesn't matter if you've lived in the states from the time you were 15. Traditional and values set in and I have yet to date a Mexican Man born in Mexico to prove me otherwise. I am independant and self reliant. I DO NOT need a man to control my every move and tell me that my place is at home barefoot and pregnant. The man in my life must be willing to accept that a relationship is a two way communication and that decisions that need to be made take the both of you. This isn't the early 1900's where women were expected to stay home and cook and clean and take care of the children. Now a days it takes both the man and woman to maintain a good solid home. There are enough jerks (American, African-American, American Mexican, etc. ect) who were born in the US that we women have to deal with.
 
 
 
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