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Wonderwoman402 wrote :
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- November 6th, 2009, 05:22 pm
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Hmm ... a good point. I am not going to calculate it, as it doesn't change the reality.

If my father was under the 28%, then he had funds left over to, whatever, go to the beach like a middle class vaction.

If I futher had to stretch myself for the house, I have not the funds left over, so I am still worse off.
- November 6th, 2009, 05:24 pm
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D_Lion wrote :

Do you have data on the percentage of these men who weren't in the employer health plan at all, prior to receipt of the Order? This would be an indication of just how destitute they were (before the Order.)
Most of the employer-sponsored health plans I administer are usually 100% or very close to 100% employer paid for the employee coverage so that won't help there.

The dependent coverage is a different story - most of the employers fund a significant amount while others do not.

One thing to point out is the employees have an income higher than what is eligible for medicaid, otherwise they would be covering the child through the state program.

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I am surprised by the comments of people that women are less likely to work for an employer that offers health benefits. If we are talking full-time employment, I do not see why men would be more likely to work for an employer that offers group coverage.
- November 6th, 2009, 06:13 pm
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I agree with neardc that men are more likely to have jobs that provide health coverage.

I would expect that the court would also be more likely to order the parent with the higher income to provide health coverage, and since men typically earn more, they would more often be responsible forthis expense.

Also, I suspect that these orders are generally issued on the parent that doesn't have primary custody. This is a bit of a guess based on human nature - the parent who has their children the bulk of the time is more likely to be taking them to the doctor and would be more incliuned to make sure coverage was ensured. And while men increasingly share in the custody, the woman is still more likely to have the kids a larger percentage of the time.
My ex has 0 out of pocket health insurance, I would have to pay 40 a month to add the kids. The court gave that responsibility to him based on that. If mine was 0 as well it would have been both, if I had zero...you get the point it is first who can insure them well for the least out of pocket.
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I agree - I think those comments were personal values masquerading as claims.

Women tend to cluster in public-sector jobs with lush benefits, like teachers, and men in labor, temporary work and construction, where benefits are less or non-existent.

Though, I do think women are more likely to choose part time work, with less benefits (emphasis on "choose.'')
- November 6th, 2009, 06:20 pm
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Wonderwoman402 wrote :
So you agree a great deal of your standard of living has to do with where you choose to live.
Ah ha good one. Don't you live in Missouri as well?

I have a friend who is looking at apartments in Brooklyn. 1,650 a month. Around here you can rent a five bedroom home for that and in a far better area. She laughed when I asked why not look at homes. Definitely a different cost of living. Probably cause we aren't taxed to death.
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D_Lion wrote :
I agree - I think those comments were personal values masquerading as claims.

Women tend to cluster in public-sector jobs with lush benefits, like teachers, and men in labor, temporary work and construction, where benefits are less or non-existent.

Though, I do think women are more likely to choose part time work, with less benefits (emphasis on "choose.'')
Even part time jobs have full benefits. You just have to look for them.
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Sad. Multiply that by ten for Manhattan.

And they're the size of my kitchen.

Oh, and add an amount equal to average US household income for a parking spot. Yes, one parking spot.
- November 6th, 2009, 06:31 pm
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Can_I_just_be_Jo wrote :
Even part time jobs have full benefits. You just have to look for them.

Uh, is this a poke at teachers?

I haven't had an employer which offered full benefits to part time workers (not including shift workers making under 80 hours / two weeks, such as three 12-hour shifts / week; they do tend to get full benefits.)
- November 6th, 2009, 06:34 pm
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Sad. Multiply that by ten for Manhattan.

And they're the size of my kitchen.

Oh, and add an amount equal to average US household income for a parking spot. Yes, one parking spot.
I know the shopping is amazing and the food oh sweet mother the food, but move. They have these things called air planes, flying there once a month is cheaper than living there. You could be like my daughter and act like she still lives there.

Oh by the way what is the current grad tuition for Columbia? I am sitting at the moment and finally have my wine. I can handle it. Not me, little dear decided that is her grad school. Oh, these would be those expenses everyone is telling you about. We have to pay her tuition. Funny thing, if we weren't divorced we could tell her to suck it up and get student loans. Got to love that.
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