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Sorry if this has already been discussed.

If you clone your dog, are you cloning his personality as well? Is personality genetic or undeterminable or just a big mystery. Can you clone your soul?

What if scruffy comes back with the personality of your departed uncle? I guess we'll have to wait until they clone someone who can talk and then see who they are.

Or, can you clone just the body of the person, and then choose a personality for them? How would you capture one and insert it? So many questions.
 
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Much to ponder!

Are you planning to clone someone?

I do not think you can clone a soul. It think New-Scruffy has a separate soul from Old-Scruffy.
 
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Vanillasky wrote :
Sorry if this has already been discussed.

If you clone your dog, are you cloning his personality as well? Is personality genetic or undeterminable or just a big mystery. Can you clone your soul?

What if scruffy comes back with the personality of your departed uncle? I guess we'll have to wait until they clone someone who can talk and then see who they are.

Or, can you clone just the body of the person, and then choose a personality for them? How would you capture one and insert it? So many questions.
I take it you heard about Trouble and Double Trouble.

I would think that if you are cloning anything then the genetics would say that the mind and body are obviously the same as the original. This being said I would come to thing that the mind would have a huge part in the mentality and personality of said being.

Look at Frankenstein (one of my favorite classic stories), he had the body parts of many people, but thats not what made him who he was. He had the mind of an evil man which gave him violent tendencies, however he wanted to fit into human society which is where his will comes in. He was shunned by humans due to his grotesc appearance and his near 8 foot gigantic stature. He hid in a barn and had the will to learn from a human family and grew to become a compassionate being. Yada yada and the story goes on.

Fact of the matter is, the mind will bring with it its previous properties even though no memories of the past are available. Does personality go gene deep? I'm sure its a very good possibility. But things can change which are dependant on the will of the creature and its surroundings. When Frankenstein was created for example, he was left abandoned and was made to fend for himself and to learn to read and write and even speak. Had he had someone to help him I'm sure the story would have turned out much differently.

Take what you want from this, its just my 2 cents on how I think of it and how I relate it to a story writen back in 1818.
 
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Sassafras54 wrote :
Much to ponder!

Are you planning to clone someone?

I do not think you can clone a soul. It think New-Scruffy has a separate soul from Old-Scruffy.
People have cloned their dogs. But, if Scruffy II has a different personality (soul?) than Scruffy the original, why clone him?

Do the owners of these pets report that the clone has the identical personality or is it like Stephen King's "Pet Sematary" where you don't know what you're gonna get?
 
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Lucid wrote :
I would think that if you are cloning anything then the genetics would say that the mind and body are obviously the same as the original. This being said I would come to thing that the mind would have a huge part in the mentality and personality of said being.

Look at Frankenstein (one of my favorite classic stories), he had the body parts of many people, but thats not what made him who he was. He had the mind of an evil man which gave him violent tendencies, however he wanted to fit into human society which is where his will comes in.
I think Dolly the sheep was the first successful clone? But, I did like that ear they grew on the back of a mouse. Growing replacement parts is cool.

Frankenstein is fiction, but the desire to clone for real has been around a long time. Yeah, I want to know what and from where the personality of a clone comes from.

The hardware may be cloned, but who's to say where the softwear comes from? I don't know that the mind is automatically the same as the original, just because the brain is identical.
 
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I understand by what you mean with hardware and software, and for that I really have no idea what the effects would be. But its definitly something interesting to speculate. I'd like to hear more on this actually.
 
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Like I said, its likely got alot to do with the bodies and personalities of those around it as well as the environment.
 
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Lucid wrote :
Like I said, its likely got alot to do with the bodies and personalities of those around it as well as the environment.
But we don't know, do we. Do you remember ever hearing anything about this from the cloned pet owners whether the pet is identical personality-wise?

It's like those who receive an organ donation and start craving pea soup when they have hated it their whole life -- but it was a favorite of the organ donor who's heart the patient received.
 
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I have heard of this quite reciently.. Actually just a few days ago on Yahoo! website. There was a story and video of a lady cloning her old dog (now deceased), Trouble. The close is identical in every way, personality included. The clone is named Double trouble. I'm sure this could be found on youtube without much hastle, it may even still be on Yahoo! somewhere.


Found it, its a link from ABC News.
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/south-koreas-dog-cloning-industry-raises-ethical-red/story?id=15309415
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Hmm. Speaking of hardware and software, along with cloning, you could probably make modifications to their genetic structure and alter all kinds of things. Like ordering a luxury automobile to your specifications.

What would you add, delete or alter?
 
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