Spinoff from "Smart Women" thread: Men & the courts/abusive women/false DV claims/etc.


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neardc is offline neardc Post #21  February 19,2010, 11:33am
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This is all very interesting and a topic for a lively debate, but it really is off-topic here so I'm going to ask that the conversation get back to focusing on the OP.

If you would like to start a new thread focusing on these issues, please feel free to do so in the Everything Else forum, though.
 
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neardc wrote :
Keep in mind, Lizzie, that he is presenting information from a practice that focuses on these kinds of cases. It would not be appropriate to generalize to what the situation is overall (as he is suggesting we do)....

Anecdotal evidence is just that. It shows that something "can" happen, but doesn't speak at all to generalizability (i.e., the extent to which that represents the universe of cases).
We do not just focus on false allegation cases. We focus on contested divorce cases, cases wherein the man has the tenacity and financial means to fight for justice, unlike so many men going through a divorce who basically have to concede due to the inherent biases in our family courts and the lack of funds to fight it. So my stats and conclusions may be valid overall as they relate to contested divorce cases....lots of cases. Obviously, if a man is unable to fight the fight, or is not going through divorce, we don't know the stats for those situations.

And I do not consider findings of FACT in court decisions "anecdotal". Do you?
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Rainmaker54 wrote :
Thank you for supporting my position. So its either a tattooed, drug using, smoking, cursing, violent woman or a sex robot. Nice!
Oh, I wasn't supporting your view ... I actually disagree completely with your generalizations.

I wanted to offer you an alternative so your bitterness wouldn't potentially impact the womenz in my pool.
 
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I see your point, NearDC. It would be interesting to know what the stats are over-all.

Still think that Rainmaker's numbers tell us something if more than the majority are over-turned then it is either originally a bad judgment by the court or really good lawyering by Rainmaker and his firm. Maybe a little of both?

(And I know...off topic so I will stop. lol!)
 
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LizziePooh wrote :
I see your point, NearDC. It would be interesting to know what the stats are over-all.

Still think that Rainmaker's numbers tell us something if more than the majority are over-turned then it is either originally a bad judgment by the court or really good lawyering by Rainmaker and his firm. Maybe a little of both?

(And I know...off topic so I will stop. lol!)

In 16 years of practice with over two thousand cases, 3 were overturned (one on first appeal, two on 2nd appeal). When we handle a case, we nail the door shut.
 
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(And I know...off topic so I will stop. lol!)
I think we've already established that there isn't really a topic ...
 
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I was calling your cases the overturned ones. I did not mean your cases that were overturned. Interesting tidbit though that there only three cases that you guys have had overturned. I would assume that is a telling number for the quality of your firm's work.
 
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I think we've already established that there isn't really a topic ...
Too funny!
 
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Rainmaker - I'm not going to respond because, as I said this is completely off-topic and not a discussion that belongs here in this thread in the "Dating" forum.

Please do start a different thread if you wish to start a discussion.

Thanks!
 
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Seneca wrote :
It is considered fashionable and smart (even funny) in our Society for women to treat all men with the Presumption of Guilt... while pretending that all women deserve the Presumption of Innocence. To illustrate how wrong and damaging that actually is, this thread is a scenario that puts the shoe on the other foot for examination.

If you are fair enough and strong enough to truly think – even for just a few moments - how the presumption of Guilt feels, - really feels when YOU are on the Receiving End of it, - over and over and over and over and over and over - I’m betting you will realize something very important about your future male/female relationships that you will find very helpful.
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How are my posts [about how things play out in court rooms, where there is an underlying presumption that men are the abusers and that women are the abusees, when, in fact, women mete out just as much, or more, abuse than men] in conflict with the topic of this thread?
 
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