Spinoff from "Smart Women" thread: Men & the courts/abusive women/false DV claims/etc.


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Rainmaker54 is offline Rainmaker54 Post #11  February 18,2010, 10:39pm
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scarlet13 wrote :
so, post links from your "stats"

what you have is your perception of the facts. which is what we all have.
In 2006, I was involved in 173 contested divorce cases. Of that number, 96 entailed the wife making claims of domestic violence. In 89 of these cases that allegation was proven false, and in 19 of these cases the wife was the one found to have perpetrated domestic violence against the man.

In 2007 - 196 cases, 121 of which entailed allegations of DV by the wife. 106 were proven false, and in 27 the wife was found to be the perpetrator.

In 2008 - 227 cases, 152 of which entailed allegations of DV by the wife. 138 were proven false, and in 36 the wife was found to be the perpetrator.

In 2009 - 258 cases, 149 of which entailed allegations of DV by the wife. 140 were proven false, and in 42 the wife was found to be the perpetrator.

2010 - Already looking like another busy year for my firm.

My stats are in line with the stats of other affiliated firms. The vast majority of women who make allegations of domestic violence are lying, and are obtaining ex parte Orders of Protection via perjured testimony, almost as a matter of course, in order to gain leverage in the Family Courts.

This is not my "perception", this is fact..... and it plays out every week without fail.
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Rainmaker54 wrote :
The vast majority of today's modern women are aggressive, power hungry, vengeful, bitter, conniving, and obsessed with the notion of becoming exactly like the stereotypical man of yesteryear - cursing, drug use, physical altercations, smoking, tattoos, able to have frivolous sexual encounters (with the availability of abortion on demand, and as a matter of solving an "inconvenience", as a back-up plan), etc., etc.
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Rainmaker54 wrote :
In 2006, I was involved in 173 contested divorce cases.
And there's the problem with your perception.

If you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. You see contested divorce cases every day. You job has you immersed in misery. What you fail to see is uncontested divorces where the couple is civil and reasonable, or thriving marriages where the people are loving and kind.

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My stats are in line with the stats of other affiliated firms. The vast majority of women who make allegations of domestic violence are lying, and are obtaining ex parte Orders of Protection via perjured testimony, almost as a matter of course, in order to gain leverage in the Family Courts.

This is not my "perception", this is fact..... and it plays out every week without fail.
Again, your stats line up with others who also are immersed in a field that sees people at their worst, a profession whose services many will never need. It's like being a cardiologist and saying that, from what you see every day, almost everyone is overweight and just moments away from a heart attack. Of course they are, or the vast majority of them wouldn't be there in the first place.
 
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Rainmaker54 wrote :
In 2006, I was involved in 173 contested divorce cases. Of that number, 96 entailed the wife making claims of domestic violence. In 89 of these cases that allegation was proven false, and in 19 of these cases the wife was the one found to have perpetrated domestic violence against the man.

In 2007 - 196 cases, 121 of which entailed allegations of DV by the wife. 106 were proven false, and in 27 the wife was found to be the perpetrator.

In 2008 - 227 cases, 152 of which entailed allegations of DV by the wife. 138 were proven false, and in 36 the wife was found to be the perpetrator.

In 2009 - 258 cases, 149 of which entailed allegations of DV by the wife. 140 were proven false, and in 42 the wife was found to be the perpetrator.

2010 - Already looking like another busy year for my firm.

My stats are in line with the stats of other affiliated firms. The vast majority of women who make allegations of domestic violence are lying, and are obtaining ex parte Orders of Protection via perjured testimony, almost as a matter of course, in order to gain leverage in the Family Courts.

This is not my "perception", this is fact..... and it plays out every week without fail.
no. post links to the statistics- otherwise you are just blah blah blah on a website.
 
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scarlet13 wrote :
no. post links to the statistics- otherwise you are just blah blah blah on a website.
Obviously, Scarlet you must be unfamiliar with Family Court records. They are sealed. The public does not have access, nor are the transcripts published. This is unfortunate in some respects, because if such documents were available for public review then the voting members of society could become acquainted with the situation and perhaps put pressure on the system to change. Naturally, the judges like the cloak of secrecy as it is now so the general public is unaware that the vast majority (over 85%) of Orders of Protection are granted with NO corroborating evidence of abuse whatsoever.

Furthermore, if you are inherently a doubting and suspicious person, any link posted would also be subject to suspicion if the contents did not align with your view.
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Roxxxy is reasonably priced at $7000.00.
Thank you for supporting my position. So its either a tattooed, drug using, smoking, cursing, violent woman or a sex robot. Nice!
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Rainmaker54 wrote :
Thank you for supporting my position. So its either a tattooed, drug using, smoking, cursing, violent woman or a sex robot. Nice!
That's funny. I have a lot of female friends and none of them fit that description.
 
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Wow, Rainmaker - those are some eye-opening statistics. If I did the math right - out of all proven DV cases - male and females are equal in numbers as perpetrators (or slightly more females it seems).

I had no idea. I found your information very interesting.
 
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Keep in mind, Lizzie, that he is presenting information from a practice that focuses on these kinds of cases. It would not be appropriate to generalize to what the situation is overall (as he is suggesting we do)....

Anecdotal evidence is just that. It shows that something "can" happen, but doesn't speak at all to generalizability (i.e., the extent to which that represents the universe of cases).
 
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LizziePooh wrote :
Wow, Rainmaker - those are some eye-opening statistics. If I did the math right - out of all proven DV cases - male and females are equal in numbers as perpetrators (or slightly more females it seems).

I had no idea. I found your information very interesting.
Thank you. Yes, unfortunately, very unfortunately, despite what women’s advocacy groups want the masses to believe, women are more likely to become violent and abusive in domestic relationships than men are. While it is true that because of sheer size and strength, the men who do become violent can inflict more serious injury than women up to a point (knives and guns are equalizers), the fact seen in the trenches is that more often than not, men are the victims of abuse, as defined by the law and as defined by the women’s advocacy group’s own hand-out materials. And just as importantly, woman are MUCH more likely to undermine and tax the judicial system with a stream of false allegation cases. In fact, last year my office caught three different women’s advocacy groups actually advising woman to lie about being abused in order to get the non-abusing spouse out of the house with an Order of Protection. And these are the same women’s groups that are spreading the blatant lie that 1/3 of married women are being domestically abused in order to create mass hysteria, and funding for their organizations. It’s really pretty sickening. In the end, such groups are actually going to ruin it for women who genuinely are being abused, because eventually there will be a backlash in the courts as men stand up for their rights and start suing organizations that promote defamation of character.
 
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