tweet37 is offline tweet37 Post #21  October 31,2008, 5:46am
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LonelyStarState,315748 wrote :

PosiTiv65,315721 wrote :


m8se69,315611 wrote :


LonelyStarState,315601 wrote :


if someone tries to threaten me with violence... the first thing i'm going to do is punch them in the face or apply the 'castle doctrine'.


after that, it doesn't matter who wins or who lost.


the azzhole will have noted my point.


end of lesson.


ohh...what's the "castle doctrine"...I wanna be able to apply that too!


Is is appropriate for 12 yr olds???!!!!


only if they want real bullies to stop picking on them.


it sends the message to the bully that yeah, you might beat my azz but each time you harass me, you're going to have to work for it.
Spot on.
 
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Lots of comments :-)
FLGAL - I have the "mean people suck" sweatshirt, onlyshirtI have with writing on it (hate those).

To those who say to ignore itor that's how kids are, well, they're that way becauseadults allow it! That's why there large groups of children acting like animals. Children will lower themselves to the lowest in the group (same with adults, that's why we do not hang out with crude, rude, mean people!) so why allow either of your children to hang out with this kid?


My instinct would beto let the kid know, through clenched teeth and the most 'I'm going to kill you in your sleep' look on my face, that his attitude and actions are not acceptable in my home and he's not welcome back until he can act like a decent human being. Then smile sweetly, offer a cookie and ask if he'd like to stay and play with your children. Chances are, if you have a vicious stare that can scare children in stores, he'll be afraid to slip up in your home again. {sweet smile}


If he acts like that outside your home, you need to let the boys know you (meaning your family) do not associate with people like this kid and they need to let others know in their group that this kid is acting badly. When pointed out most children will do right, but parents are afraid to be parents nowadays. They do the 'kids will be kids' and turn away to leave the little darlings to tear each other apart. And they do not teach their children to stand up for others... sad.


One thing that bothered me, and I don't have the quote here, but you mentioned not feeling quite right about this kid or something like that. Just because he lives next door does not make him good friend material for your boys. I tell people all the time - follow your gut. If something isn't right about this kid you need to follow up on that.
 
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Well, I had a little chat with the brat tonight. Mytwo are at a Halloween party (sleepover) with 8 other kids. The brat is one of them. I pulled him aside and essentially told him that if he cannot figure out how to be nice to BOTH of my kids, then he needs to consider himself a friend of neither. I told him I was telling him the same things I say to my own kids - that you are not going to like everyone you meet and not everyone you meet is going to like you. But like someone or not, it's still not ok to be rude and mean. Etc. He looked at me like - whoa. WTF. He at least had the decency to blush and look a little flustered.


Then about an hour ago, I got a call from the mom hosting the party. She's a teacher and all of them have been through her class. She also happens to be like a second mom to my kids, so she knows what's going on. She told me she pulled all 10 boys together and gave them a "teacher lecture" - setting expectations for all of them. Told them that if she discovers anyone being rude, mean etc to anyone, that boy's parents would be called to come pick up their kid.


I did also chat with the brat's Dad briefly to explain why I was having a private confab with his son. His reaction was just as I expected - "not MY son. Really, I've never seen him be mean to anyone, especially your kids - they've been friends forever" etc. Even when I explained that I've seen/heard these things myself - not second hand info from kids - he still acted like I must be confused.


Thank you all for your posts. This situation has been brewing and thoughts have been running through my mind. Putting it out here and getting feedback moved things along. And the timing just happened to work out quite nicely. Sooooo, we'll see how it goes. Happy Halloween!!
 
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When I was in grade school, about 5th or 6th grade, we had a major bully who mostly picked on girls (he's now the town mayor After about the 3rd month of being bullied by him he was below me on steep school stairs, and turned around to shove me and stay something typically mean. I saw red and kicked him and shoved him. He fell down the flight of hard granite stairs. He wasn't hurt, but I must say he never bothered me again Alot of guys saw it and he was deeply humiliated, karma. But I was a tomboy and had alot of strength, plus I had the tactical advantage of being a stair higher than he. Score one for the Nerds. Laura
 
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Positive, I'm glad you "spoke" with the punk...and his dad. You have to feel a little better, anyway. I hope it got through. And good for the other mom too. Now, they ALL know that everyone is aware of what's going on (and adults are NOT stupid after all).


Good luck, and I hope everything stays cool.
 
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