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scarlet13 is offline scarlet13 Post #1  July 14,2010, 12:24pm
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So. I need some opinions on my work situation- I kind of know what i want to do be it's nice to articulate it out.

I want to take time off.

A little background:

I have approx 6 months living expenses ( I don't have a lot of expenses or debt) in a regular savings account, which is independent from my “emergency” fund and other savings accounts. I've never NOT worked in my life- and most of the time have worked 2 jobs. I'm not a risk-taker- so the idea of quitting my job before having a new one- even though I can very easily get one- is a bit scary for me.

I've had a really rough year, emotionally and health-wise. The 2-3 months I plan to take off would be to emotionally, spiritually and physically heal from the disaster that was 2010 for me. I need a change and a break.

Plan A:

Demote myself and work 3 days a week at current job.

Pros: decent money, still have some income coming in, no training for new job, possibility of going back to full time after leave.

Cons: will still be expected to work at managerial level, will probably be “punished” in some way for leaving, will then have to quit eventually anyway, not as good as 2-3 months off completely.

Plan B:

Give 2 weeks notice now- last day will be July 31st. Take month of August off and look for new job- and probably be hired quickly somewhere in retail during the back to school or holiday season.

Pros: I'm Outta There!Woot 11!!!, I have a vacation and lots of events in August anyway.

Cons: as the Senior Manager, 2 weeks notice is hosing them a bit. My boss knows a LOT of local people and can be a bit of a jerk. And- I'll be quitting my job before having a new one.

Plan C:

give 4 weeks notice- which brings me up to my vacation. Throw caution to the wind and take some time off.

Pros: I'm not hosing my boss, I get to take 2 months off to cook healthy stuff, go to the gym, do yoga, take meditation classes, etc.

Cons: a little nervous about most likely being jobless until Christmas hiring, I have to be there 4 MORE WEEKS?


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I vote for Plan C. It's only 2 weeks more than Plan B and you won't have to fear your boss knowing a lot of local people when you look for a new job.
 
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As someone who is not a big risk taker, I vote for plan C too. It's a good idea not to burn any bridges if you can avoid it.

I have to say that the whole idea of ditching a job and doing nothing kind of goes against my nature (see: not a big risk taker), but I have taken nearly half a year off from doing anything right after my master's degree. I was totally burnt out and didn't really know what I wanted to do, plus I was trying to see how a particular relationship overseas might turn out, so I hopped a plane to England and spent the next 5 months extremely broke.

I was very anxious about the choice to take this kind of time off, but it's the best thing I could have done at the time. I have no regrets. Found a new opportunity near the end of my break that was different but just as good as what I would have done if I had never taken the time out. The gap in my resume/CV never raised any eyebrows when I have applied for things since, at least as far as I can tell.

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Definitely plan C. It has less serious cons. It's only one more month at present work and you're more than capable of finding new work when you feel you've had enough time off.
 
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I have found that employers that won't work with someone taking vacations when needed aren't very good employers.

I am not much of a risk taker either. I know that if I quit this job I could find my new one quicker. My fear is that fear will take over and I will take another job that I am not happy with either. I guess I see it as I know the dynamic of suffering here and I can deal with that but I am not sure I want to deal with an unknown suffering.

Have you considered taking courses to bring yourself out of retail management and into business management? You have very good people skills and seem to be a natural born leader. Out of retail management is still time consuming but in my opinion much more rewarding. It is less like babysitting and more like managing.

So as to your choices, plan A is good if you like my education idea. Plus you can bullshite it into sounding like you are developing skills for your current employer. Of plan B and C I would go with B. It sounds like your boss would try to hose you if given the chance. I am one to not give loyalty where loyalty is not earned.

An interesting side note I don't want to hose my current employer even though my boss is vile. The employees here are great and I couldn't put them in the position of being paid late. Also all the management above my boss are really good to me. So something to consider in deciding between B and C is the impact on your coworkers.

Oh I would offer a plan D, find your job before you quit and then put in the two week notice. After all your bosses connections won't hurt you if you already have a new job. The new employers will see through his nonsense after they have worked with you.
 
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thanks guys. (btw, is the format ok? i did this in word)

Plan C is my favorite.

believe me, the idea of quitting without having a new job lined up is SCARY. however- I know a LOT of people, and i'm faily certain i can get something- i have connections- even if it's temporary or whatever until i find something decent. heck, I'll work at shoprite. i don't care.

i mean, I don't want to go 6 months, but i could if i wanted to, so there's that.
I've worked since i was 14. I left home at 17 and worked 2 jobs for an awfully long time- who knows, maye i'll take this time off and decide to go back to school and get a degree or change careers altogether. though sales is just really easy and I'm really good at it.

mostly, I need to get my health and sanity back-it's been 7 years since my last long vacation. I'm tired.
 
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I'm not a fan of burning bridges so any option that leaves the boss in a lurch is not good, I think.

That said, I'm also not a fan of giving more that two weeks notice because, not only is that the standard for most industries, I think when you hang around longer than that, people start treating you differently(including your boss) as you go from being someone who's "moving on to better things" to someone who's "hanging around"...which can lead to some weird feelings/issues, IMO.

If you've been a terrific employee overall...what are they going to say about you?
"well, Scarlett was a model employee, always there when I needed her...just super..but, she only gave me two weeks notice.."..
Really, who's going to fault you for that?
If that's their sole criticism of you...they've got problems.

That's been my real life experience, also.

So, my option is limited to Plan B.

Will they be hosing you for vacay pay if you do the 2 weeks...or did I read that wrong? If so, that's something to consider also.
If not, I'd still take the pay and do the two week notice.
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scarlet13 wrote :
So. I need some opinions on my work situation- I kind of know what i want to do be it's nice to articulate it out.

I want to take time off.

A little background:

I have approx 6 months living expenses ( I don't have a lot of expenses or debt) in a regular savings account, which is independent from my “emergency” fund and other savings accounts. . . . I'm not a risk-taker- so the idea of quitting my job before having a new one- even though I can very easily get one- is a bit scary for me.

I've had a really rough year, emotionally and health-wise. The 2-3 months I plan to take off would be to emotionally, spiritually and physically heal from the disaster that was 2010 for me. I need a change and a break.

Plan A:

Demote myself and work 3 days a week at current job.

Pros: decent money, still have some income coming in, no training for new job, possibility of going back to full time after leave.

Cons: will still be expected to work at managerial level, will probably be “punished” in some way for leaving, will then have to quit eventually anyway, not as good as 2-3 months off completely.

Plan B:

Give 2 weeks notice now- last day will be July 31st. Take month of August off and look for new job- and probably be hired quickly somewhere in retail during the back to school or holiday season.

Pros: I'm Outta There!Woot 11!!!, I have a vacation and lots of events in August anyway.

Cons: as the Senior Manager, 2 weeks notice is hosing them a bit. My boss knows a LOT of local people and can be a bit of a jerk. And- I'll be quitting my job before having a new one.

Plan C:

give 4 weeks notice- which brings me up to my vacation. Throw caution to the wind and take some time off.

Pros: I'm not hosing my boss, I get to take 2 months off to cook healthy stuff, go to the gym, do yoga, take meditation classes, etc.

Cons: a little nervous about most likely being jobless until Christmas hiring, I have to be there 4 MORE WEEKS?


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Is there something about your current job that you don't like? It sounds like you've had a rough year and need a break, but I don't see anything about being miserable with your gig, so...... If it weren't for your emotional/health issues, would you still want to quit?
How long is your vacation for? Would that be a long enough break? Not wanting to hose your boss aside, is two weeks notice considered standard in your industry? The concept of "notice" is foreign to me. In my prior life people that gave notice were laughingly showed the door. (This is not the norm in my current profession).
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Enough questions from me! You want answers! Ok. Plan C is the safest, and I'd go with that. It would allow you to (hopefully) save a bit more money and (again hopefully) make your boss a little bit happier (though not a guarantee). Plan A is unwise for the reasons you stated. If you otherwise like your job though, I'd think about sticking out until your vacation and seeing how you feel afterward.
 
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Me thinks she should have posted a poll.
 
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TheThinker wrote :
I'm not a fan of burning bridges so any option that leaves the boss in a lurch is not good, I think.

That said, I'm also not a fan of giving more that two weeks notice because, not only is that the standard for most industries, I think when you hang around longer than that, people start treating you differently(including your boss) as you go from being someone who's "moving on to better things" to someone who's "hanging around"...which can lead to some weird feelings/issues, IMO.

If you've been a terrific employee overall...what are they going to say about you?
"well, Scarlett was a model employee, always there when I needed her...just super..but, she only gave me two weeks notice.."..
Really, who's going to fault you for that?
If that's their sole criticism of you...they've got problems.

That's been my real life experience, also.

So, my option is limited to Plan B.

Will they be hosing you for vacay pay if you do the 2 weeks...or did I read that wrong? If so, that's something to consider also.
If not, I'd still take the pay and do the two week notice.
I don't get vacation pay.

the only reason that i would offer the 4 is because my boss is... a bit strange. he's made up stories about former employees before. he's odd. it's an odd industry.

you bring up a good point though- I could offer the 4 weeks and he might just let me leave after 2, depending on which end of the bipolar seesaw he's on that week.

thanks.

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Is there something about your current job that you don't like? It sounds like you've had a rough year and need a break, but I don't see anything about being miserable with your gig, so...... If it weren't for your emotional/health issues, would you still want to quit?
How long is your vacation for? Would that be a long enough break? Not wanting to hose your boss aside, is two weeks notice considered standard in your industry? The concept of "notice" is foreign to me. In my prior life people that gave notice were laughingly showed the door. (This is not the norm in my current profession).
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Enough questions from me! You want answers! Ok. Plan C is the safest, and I'd go with that. It would allow you to (hopefully) save a bit more money and (again hopefully) make your boss a little bit happier (though not a guarantee). Plan A is unwise for the reasons you stated. If you otherwise like your job though, I'd think about sticking out until your vacation and seeing how you feel afterward.
eh. I'm not thrilled with my job anymore. I'm unmotiviated and bored, and it's affecting my performance a bit.

my "vacation" consists of a week at Monster Mania selling merch for a friend. it's not a fun vacation.

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