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In your career, have you ever had to let anyone go? Was it with cause or a layoff? Did it affect you in any way?
 
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During my life I have had to fire only one person althoughI was responsible for having several others terminated. The one I fired was a young girl who was stealing money from the company to pay for her doctor's visits. The other people were either embezzling money, stealing outright or just not doing their jobs.


Although I did not take any enjoyment from the firing or the terminations that I was responsible for to do anything else would have meant compromising my ethics.
 
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jeffsalive is offline jeffsalive Post #3  February 18,2009, 7:29am
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I personally have had to fire many many people. I have owned and operated a construction company for twenty three years. The first couple of times it was very difficult but after that it really didn't bother me, I understood it was just part of my job.


This is what I have always done though. First and foremost, I make sure to remember to remember that these are human beings and I treat them with respect and I want them to leave with their dignity in tact as much as possible! I tell themits not working out for the company, and we do not need their services any longer please collect their personal belongings and ask them to leave the premises as soon as possible... At times people to get mad but thats the ok, we do the best we can the take it from their and do what we have to and handle it as needed...If they have been with our company long enough then there is a severance package if not then, I hope they can get employment soon we dont harbor hard feelings for anyone, like any business we have to do what is best for our business.





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outlaw1 is offline outlaw1 Post #4  March 11,2009, 6:23am

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Yes I've layed off a few. In photography and other ventures.One Vietnamese woman asked me me to help her brother in photography.


{edited-I had an outdoor photo shoot at a town fair with a United States Senator. I took the 18 year oldguy along on a photo shoot. I told him I'd train him. But he just disappeared into the crowd saying he wanted to dohis own thing. That's like on the first day of a job, a plumbers assistant says to the plumber "I'll do my own thing." The kidwasn't around when the Senator & othe politicians were readyfor their photograph. He missedeverything and later when I checked over his proofs at his sisters house, they were severely amatuerish.}


He didn't want to listen and never learned anything. I'm can't even remember what I told his sister.I felt sad, here's this young man whosaid he wanted to be a [professional] photographer. He was a good kid & at the time in hisextended family, several of his relatives were customers of mine.


He just didn't have the will or want to learn. There were otherocassions but this episode always sticks out. [And the reason is because I was willing to hold a light and on occasionwork for free withdifferent Master Photographers in the beginning of my career [usually for one day. If they liked you, they usually hired you. Just to get the experience and learn new techniques was worth it.]
 
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There was one moderator I had to fire. Shehad a degree in the area of the websiteand I liked her. Her father was a famous professor in the field/area. But my other three moderators (women) wanted my website to go in another direction. And this lady, had just come back from a vacation (or was it Honeymoon? I can't remember) and she started to attack how the website was going. Meanwhile my other moderators (two who were my best) told me to dump her.


Well we had our own private website I had set up. And the other women moderators told me to get rid of her. It was difficult...I tried to talk to her privatly but she exploded on the website! My ego was affected and I took away some of her privileges. That did it, she again attacked me on my website. I fired her. I felt so bad. Later I met her online and of courseshe was cold to me.


I was going thru some heavy grievingat the time. I sometimes think about it and wish I had more patience at the time. Perhaps she had been right after all...about the direction thatthat websitewas taking/had taken.
 
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outlaw1,555029 wrote :

There was one moderator I had to fire. Shehad a degree in the area of the websiteand I liked her. Her father was a famous professor in the field/area. But my other three moderators (women) wanted my website to go in another direction. And this lady, had just come back from a vacation (or was it Honeymoon? I can't remember) and she started to attack how the website was going. Meanwhile my other moderators (two who were my best) told me to dump her.


Well we had our own private website I had set up. And the other women moderators told me to get rid of her. It was difficult...I tried to talk to her privatly but she exploded on the website! My ego was affected and I took away some of her privileges. That did it, she again attacked me on my website. I fired her. I felt so bad. Later I met her online and of courseshe was cold to me.


I was going thru some heavy grievingat the time. I sometimes think about it and wish I had more patience at the time. Perhaps she had been right after all...about the direction thatthat websitewas taking/had taken.
From what you wrote you tried to address it with the lady privately and she responded poorly toyou in a public manner?
 
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With cause, three times (really, just two). Two were people I knew relatively well. The third I made my co-manager fire since the problem was his fault. He hired a girl because she looked great, not because he thought she would do a good job. She messed things up so badly that we had to fire her immediately.


Fortunately, the two I fired knew it was coming. Jeff's right; it's not bad if you just treat them with respect.
 
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when i was 22, I was an operations manager for FedEx ground. I think i've lost count of all the people I've clipped at this point.


A few of the memorable ones included a 60 year old haitian woman who swore she'd commit witchcraft on me, a guy who left his shift at 9, slept in the break room til 3am and then clocked out.


Most of it was just stupid things like people refusing to sign forms, not getting to work on time, not wearing proper shoes. Usually I made life hell for them before they quit just to avoid clipping them.
 
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I work in management at a large hospital-so I hire/fire people on a somewhat regular basis. We have very clearly written guidelines...and there are a lot of warnings given along the way. Yes-I feel especially terrible if I know there is a family at home and they are really counting on that paycheck. There have been times I have given a heads up to an employee to make some changes before it was too late. It stinks-but a big organization will not grow and thrive if we hold on to staff that don't pull their weight.

Do I take it home with me? Of course! But I also move on. I try to be fully present at work-and fully present at home with my family.
 
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EEng is offline EEng Post #10  June 15,2009, 5:35am
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In 23 years I've had to fire only 3 people, the rest have weeded themselves out. The first time the person had been caught red handed stealing which gave me no choice. I felt like real heel for about a week because I actually like the guy and we were starting to become friends. The good part is that we're still friends to this day and he doesn't blame me for firing him....he's even apologized. The second time it was a kid who just refused to be taught anything. After 3 weeks I had to let him go. I felt bad, but not for long. The third time it was a guy with a really bad attitude about everything and firing hiim didn't bother me at all. One thing is I've never used the words "you're fired". I sit them down, tell them why its not working and finally say "I'm giving you the opportunity to explore your careeer options".
 
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