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LMAO I just showed that pic to my Twilight-loving mom!

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- September 1st, 2009, 02:55 pm
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bclfgrd2 wrote :
I've never read any of the books, nor have I seen the film...and I have absolutely no desire to.

However, I absolutely hate the impact that this series has had on vampire fiction. I'm not even an expert of vampire lore, but I certainly appreciate it and find it fascinating, and I don't like how these books have inspired this whole wave of romantic, angsty, trendy vampire stories. This was part of the reason that Guillermo del Toro wrote his vampire novel trilogy, The Strain - he wanted to reintroduce vampires as scary, horrifying creatures, something to be feared.

Interestingly, I just saw this yesterday - Hollywood icon Lauren Bacall's thoughts on Twilight:

Screen legend Lauren Bacall is urging vampire fans to check out 1920s horror movies - because the Twilight blood-suckers pale in comparison to classic monsters.


The Hollywood veteran sat down to watch the 2008 blockbuster to check out the cinematic craze her grandchildren were so excited about.


But she was disappointed after watching the movie, starring hunk Robert Pattinson, and sat her granddaughter down to give her a lesson in frightening films.


Bacall writes on her Twitter.com page, "Yes, I saw Twilight - my granddaughter made me watch it, she said it was the greatest vampire film ever. After the 'film' was over I wanted to smack her across her head with my shoe, but I do not want a (tell-all) book called Grannie Dearest written on me when I die. So instead I gave her a DVD of Murnau's 1922 masterpiece Nosferatu and told her, 'Now that's a vampire film!' And that goes for all of you! Watch Nosferatu instead!"
I am a big Vampire fan. As for the book goes, well im still trying to read through the first one. I bought it cause I did see the movie and wanted to know more about each vampires background, where they came from (I like stuff like that). I'm more curious about who they are, where they came from, and how do the werewolves play out in all of this.

Other then that I definitely agree that Bella's roll annoyed me. She seemed always on edge, jumpy, and way too intense. I just wanted to kick her through out the movie. I agree she doesn't make a very good role model for young girls, but, I think that parents should still watch the movies with their daughters. Explaining to them, and making them aware of the negative aspects of Bella's persona. Girls need to be mentored, just like boys, on what are acceptable and non acceptable traits.
- September 4th, 2009, 11:09 am
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bclfgrd2 wrote :

I don't like how these books have inspired this whole wave of romantic, angsty, trendy vampire stories.
The romantic, angsty, trendy vamp has been around for awhile in teen novels. A prime example is a series i myself read 16 years ago. The Vampire Diaries. (which is debuting as a regular show as of the 10th, and i hear the story line has been seriously messed up).

I've always prefered the older horror filled, bloodbath splashed vampire films myself. So much more fun.

And i agree, vampires DO NOT sparkle.
- September 4th, 2009, 10:25 pm
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Well I've never read them and don't intend to (I've heard nothing good), but I have enjoyed reading the more smartass reviews floating around.

Heres my two favorites. Both use foul language and at least the one might be pretty offensive to Mormons. All in good fun, but if it is over the line I imagine a moderator will zap the links.

Twilight | Cracked.com

stoney321: LDS Sparkledammerung IS HERE!
- September 16th, 2009, 12:49 pm
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Honestly, I was going to read the books, but when I walked into the bookstore and saw them in the romance section, I decided then and there that I wasn't going to read them...ever!!! I really despise romance novels.
- September 18th, 2009, 04:54 am
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I haven't read the books or watched the movies. I don't have any desire to do either.

Last year I taught a bunch of Twilight junkies. Sometimes to break the silence or if I needed a laugh I would blurt out, "edward is ugly." The girls would flip out in protest. It was pretty funny to watch them.
- September 19th, 2009, 11:41 pm
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ME TOO!!!

What's worse, I worked at a bookstore for the release of the third and fourth books. My stepbrother for Christmas 2008 bought me Twlight....... If I worked at a %&^$%*# bookstore don't you think if I wanted to read it or buy it I would have?!?!

A word of advice to anyone who may read this... do not buy a book (unless asked) for someone who works in a bookstore! Just don't do it! give them a gift card for the bookstore with a suggestion of what you would want them to read....

And if he got another book I probably wouldn't be as peeved about it but come on! Twlight?!?! Really?!?!

So now Twlight is sitting underneath a pile of textbooks..... even when I want something new to read now I refuse to crack that book.

This phase too will pass... hang in there only three more movies to get through
- September 20th, 2009, 01:56 pm
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Bah, haters!

Granted the Twilight series is not exactly my type of novels (I found Meyer's novel The Host to be vastly superior to the Twilight series in both creativity and style) but you can say just about anything is being a "bad role model." Harry Potter teaches kids breaking the rules is a good thing, Scooby-Doo teaches kids it's good to be a coward, Batman teaches kids that being a vigilante is cool, Artemis Fowl teaches kids to be evil geniuses bent on world domination, blah blah blah. Teach kids how to filter the good messages from the bad because that's something they're going to have to do for the rest of their lives (and what many adults have yet to learn).

Sorry, these types of arguments strike me a silly. There's nothing wrong with disliking the books but using the position "The main character is a bad role model!" is weak.

My problems with the story were the pacing (four books were completely unnecessary, the middle two could easily have been combined into a single novel and shortened), Jacob (who they spent way too much time on considering how annoying he was), similar plotlines (book 1: Bella is hunted by local vamps, book 2: Bella is hunted by Italian vamps and the vamps from the first one, again, book 3: Bella is...hunted by vamps, I don't know, I don't really remember the third book, book 4: Bella is hunted by ALL the vamps, along with her kid and entire extended family.), and yeah, Bella is somewhat retarded as a main character having seemingly no sense of self preservation whatsoever. The last book was my favorite but mainly because Bella was much better as a vampire than a human (sorry if I ruined the plotline even though they were talking about turning her in the first book and didn't actually do it until a third of the way into the fourth book).

You can tear apart the series just fine on its own merits, bringing in its social commentary is sort of silly. That being said I enjoyed the novels overall, even though I skimmed heavily (and I thought I wrote too much) and enjoyed the last book far more than the other three.

As for this being some unusual type of vampire story it's not really unusual at all. Heck it's pretty close to Buffy just with the vampires being more powerful but similar amounts of relationship drama. Dracula involved a romance too you know. And the Anne Rice novels have vampires as being something very different from Wes Craven's really-fast-zombies-who-drink-blood. I don't think Meyer really tread much new ground other than being popular with teen girls who find the idea of a super hot, super dangerous, immortal gentlemen who's totally into her normal girl self appealing. You don't have to take Psych 101 to get why this is popular.

It's too bad Meyer is going to be forever known for her Twilight series as The Host was actually a very entertaining book (in my opinion). It had an unusual premise, good characters (even if they did skirt of Meyer's obsessive romance side), and definitely a neat twist to the whole "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" genre (if it can be called that). It's also the first four-way romance I've ever read involving three bodies. It's rather different from Twilight so if you've avoided it thinking it's another teen girl novel you might be surprised.

Sorry, had to jump in with somewhat of a defense of the Twilight series as it isn't that bad. It's not that good either but I wouldn't condemn it.

Feel free to rip on the movie, though, it was horrid. It's like they just looked for people they thought appeared like the characters and didn't give a crap whether or not they could act. Or maybe they just picked a random director who couldn't do that either. I don't know. Ugh.

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- November 3rd, 2009, 10:36 am
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Consider the demographic the story was written for..angst ridden teen girls. Having raised several of them (and I read the series at the urging of my 17 year old grand daughter) I understand why it appeals.

I forget who mentioned that saying Bella is a poor role model is a specious remark. Of course shes a poor role model...we all want our teens to be strong women. But thats not always as much fun as being a whiny weakling who has a vampire bf.

I gave my grand daughter the first Sookie Stackhouse book (Charlaine Harris) and she loved that series. Sookie, while not a vampire, hangs out with 'supes' and deals with vamp bf's in a strong and funny manner. Much more enjoyable than Bella IMO.

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- November 17th, 2009, 01:25 am
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