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BeccaBear wrote :
Church, is it necessary in furthering your spiritual relationship with God? Or is it a simple ritual that we have disguised as something deeper? Or is it a an easy way for people to learn the word of God without doing the reading and thinking themselves? Is it a way to control people through religion? And finally, if you believe it's necessary would you date someone that refuses to attend?
I think 'church' may possibly have two distinctions:
1. A building - a place which can be used for weddings, funerals and sanctuary.
2. When two or more people gather in God's name. (Matt 18:20)

If gathering in God's name is not necessary to further each person's relationship with God, why then do Christians who are persecuted for their faith, openly defy the laws of their country to do so?
- May 16th, 2009, 05:35 am
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Thats what i,m talken about. It is even to say that, The Church, our love for one another is part of the great commision, they will see God by seeing our love for one another. The difficult part is that whatever church you go to there are sinners and sin happens and noone likes to confess sins or repent for sins. we just want to love Jesus on our own terms. but the Good news is that The Lord did give us His Spirit to live in us and help our broken relationships at home or at church. I wish i can say i,ve never been hurt or hurt anyone in my church but that is someother reality that will exist in a time that comes went God renews earth.
- May 19th, 2009, 01:27 am
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I,m with Lisarey.
It is even to say that, The Church, our love for one another is part of the great commision, they will see God by seeing our love for one another. The difficult part is that whatever church you go to there are sinners and sin happens and noone likes to confess sins or repent for sins. we just want to love Jesus on our own terms. but the Good news is that The Lord did give us His Spirit to live in us and help our broken relationships at home or at church. I wish i can say i,ve never been hurt or hurt anyone in my church but that is someother reality that will exist in a time that comes went God renews earth.

But the fundamental Idea that The bible is Gods word should be our meeting ground and if we dont agree on this then the discussion will go in circles.
- May 19th, 2009, 01:31 am
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I guess in my OP I should have clarified that by church I meant the building that people go to in a large mass to listen to some person, that they usually have no personal connection to, tell them what the Bible says. (If that sounded rude, I didn't mean for it to, I'm tired and cranky, it's rediculously hot here.) I agree that having others to support you in your spiritual journey is very helpful, not necessary, but definitely helpful. I agree that you should discuss God, the bible, and your beliefs with others, of all ages, if only to attain access to many other opinions that may have a better perspective than your own. And I agree with the idea of fellowship. With that said, I don't believe in the church, for many reasons, some of which I don't voice because they are somewhat offensive to church goers, and I don't wish to offend others right now, and others that I think I've stated in other posts. :P
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Becca, I am glad you left it open as it gave room for many differing views to be posted.
- May 22nd, 2009, 03:23 pm
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I saw this on a last weekend while driving by a church: "Church is a gift from God; some assembly required."
- May 28th, 2009, 02:52 pm
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I could be with someone who didn't attend church or even with someone who attended a different church (different faith), but I would hope that the person I end up with does attend. Although the church is a building, I find that it has a peace that when I attend I don't get anywhere else. And while I'm there it's really in my face of how I should be living my life. I walk out with that on my mind to help get me through the week. Granted, I often fail, but it's not about failing. It's about getting up after the fall.
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Hiya
Becca i have seen you threads here and wondered if i could contribute? yes it is ironic that we can sometimes spend what seems like most of our lives either being shunted from one ministry or church to another and then after a while we are just exhausted?
I cannot judge you as i only attended church up until the age of 14 then i bailed out so to speak. Then it took me another 30years almost before i even truly stepped into a church again and even then i struggled for the first 7 years???
Your exactly the statistic our church in London here at KT try to avoid that is so to speak we realise that each person is a gift and so like wise they are nutured as such, we use a system of winning souls to Christ by initiating people through their peer groups as well as meeting them at their point of need. That includes social events as well as groups that enable that person to gain confidence in their walk with Christ as well as general friendships that will last.
If it is not a hinderance to you can i suggest you check out this web site WWW.KT.ORG.UK Colin Dye is my Senior Pastor take a good look at what there is and start searching asking God to direct you in all of the areas of your life you have briefly mentioned here. I am very interested in this as i am invloved in Church ministry and sincerely hear your heart beat. It is not easy being a young lady or man in the current climate. But if people can speak positively into your life to give encouragement God will order your steps and then one day you will not only find the need to realte to fellow Christians in Church. You will find that you will have a hunger to seek out others. So i ask that God will deal with your most urgent needs now and that over time He will lead you to the right environment where you feel at peace to join a Christ Centered group that believes and practices every area of the Gospel and relates well in all area of those around them. Christianity at the end of the day is all about relationship relationship relationship and without that we are never effective , real or authentic.
All the best
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- June 23rd, 2009, 07:43 pm
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P.S Becca you have an open invitation from me and my family to come to UK and check us out at KT but first look at the link i mentioned to you. Alicia
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