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What age group do you prefer and why?
I have no age group preference. Notice that my entire emphasis is upon characteristics, attitudes and abilities -- not age. I flat do not care about anyone's chronological age.

When I mention "vibrant, bold, adventuresome, fit and able – and exciting -- without the baggage", I am NOT identifying anyone's age.

However, I openly acknowledge a lack of interest in attempting to establish a relationship with a woman who is: dull, fearful, out of shape, incapable of physical activity, unexciting, and carrying baggage -- REGARDLESS of age.

A woman who is twenty-five years younger than me may be "too old" (or unsuitable) in her thinking, attitudes, interests and abilities to be an appropriate partner for me.

I realize that many women are convinced that it is their age alone that causes men to prefer other women. I can say with certainty that, at least in this case, their conclusion is dead wrong.

WOS, what is your age group preference in men -- and why?

Are you a woman who complains about men preferring younger women?
- July 6th, 2009, 06:45 am
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I have no age group preference. Notice that my entire emphasis is upon characteristics, attitudes and abilities -- not age. I flat do not care about anyone's chronological age.

When I mention "vibrant, bold, adventuresome, fit and able – and exciting -- without the baggage", I am NOT identifying anyone's age.

However, I openly acknowledge a lack of interest in attempting to establish a relationship with a woman who is: dull, fearful, out of shape, incapable of physical activity, unexciting, and carrying baggage -- REGARDLESS of age.

A woman who is twenty-five years younger than me may be "too old" (or unsuitable) in her thinking, attitudes, interests and abilities to be an appropriate partner for me.

I realize that many women are convinced that it is their age alone that causes men to prefer other women. I can say with certainty that, at least in this case, their conclusion is dead wrong.

WOS, what is your age group preference in men -- and why?

Are you a woman who complains about men preferring younger women?
I'll be more than happy to answer your questions but please answer mine first, what is your age group preference in women, and why?
- July 7th, 2009, 03:16 am
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WOS wrote :
I'll be more than happy to answer your questions but please answer mine first, what is your age group preference in women, and why?
What part of "I have no age group preference" do you not understand?
- July 7th, 2009, 06:07 am
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What part of "I have no age group preference" do you not understand?
Since you didn't answer my questions then neither do I have to answer your questions. Honesty is what I work with and I don't play games. Nevertheless, I do thank you for responding to me at all because you didn't have to.
- July 7th, 2009, 07:00 pm
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Since you evidently don't comprehend that I very clearly answered your question, here is another statement from the same paragraph of mine that you quote.

"I flat do not care about anyone's chronological age"

Is there anything unclear or difficult to understand about that statement?


And, you claim that you "don't play games"??????

Do you honestly not realize that your question was answered twice in the statement of mine that you quoted – and has been answered twice since?
- July 7th, 2009, 07:23 pm
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Hi JDave-interesting initial post.
I think that, for many men, there is a bit of genetic impetus combined with male ego that makes dating younger women so attractive, regardless of their own age.
Genetically, men are given a strong need to procreate. At any age, the desire to be able to continue our species is so strong in many men that, even if intellectually they know they aren't going to want children, they still desire women of childbearing age.
We mature women can't fight that. Our bodies and faces show the world that we have born all the children we are able to.
Because we can't argue that point, neither should we accept it as something we have to settle for when searching for a new male in our lives.
We can't give up on the hope of companionship in our golden years,but we can strive to appear our best, (sadly-our youngest)and hope we find an intelligent man who isn't hormone driven.
The phrasing in our profiles is very important as is an excellent picture that shows a woman to advantage.
For example, I am a creative woman-I paint, do mixed media photography and watercolor and, in the winter I quilt. In my profile I emphasize the younger sounding creativity and not the quilting which is perceived (incorrectly) as being a old woman's hobby.
I am honest about an injury that has taken the ability to be aggressively athletic away, but emphasize my love of hiking,dancing, live music and travel by myself.
And, as you may remember from an earlier post of mine, I also have shaved a few years off my posted age, against the rules here (I've always been a rule breaker and-surprise, there are many many rule breakers here.)
In order for me to even meet a man, I have to use everything available to me to appear fun and youthful.
Deceptive of me? Of course, but I have no guilt about it-this dating experience has shown me that about 40% of the men I've met have also taken liberties with their birthdate, with their photograph, with their marital status and their physical attractiveness.
Men who refer to themselves as athletic and trim, in my age group, are as a whole all slightly or more than slightly overweight. Pictures in their profile of trim guys with hair are about 15 years old, from the looks of the sideburns and the looks of the man.
The initial meet often comes as a surprise to me.
In my profile, I emphasize my preference for a healthy man, one without major physical problems. My husband died of complications of diabetes and I don't want to go thru that again. I have just as much right to want a man who takes care of his physical health as a man does to want a youthful appearing woman, yet time and time again I have met men who are overweight and fighting diabetes. It's an awful disease and can be controlled by weight loss-I did it 9 years ago..it was hard but it worked and I am healthier because I took charge of myself and focused on being healthy.
I post a recent full body picture - I am slender. I work hard to stay that way-it can be a loosing battle for a 60+ year old, but it can be done.
JDave, you have many excellent points in your post, many of which no woman of our age can control-and neither can a man-ageism sucks but is a reality that we all deal with as best we are able.
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- July 8th, 2009, 04:11 pm
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Bravo ! Bravo ! I could not have said it more eloquently. I am into current events, movies, music, and – YES – even video games. I try to be polite but get so tired of mature woman running everything down and only able to carry on conversation of good ol’ times or who has what ailment. I work in technology and want someone that can converse intelligently on the same subjects. The horse and buggy days were unique, but that is the past. I for one am looking toward the future.fficeffice" />>>
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In my opinion, anyone who dates someone 14+ years younger or older than themselves has some serious issues. Men are diluting themselves if they actually think someone that much younger is actually attracted to them for any other purpose than needing a daddy that they never had, or for money. Why would anyone (male or female) ever want to be in a marriage or relationship that they knew they would have to be a nurse maid to, or widow (for that matter) at such a young age when they could have a life partner?
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Welcome to the forum "realist". We can but assume that you will live up to your chosen ID. You have revealed quite a bit about yourself in what you post.

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In my opinion, anyone who dates someone 14+ years younger or older than themselves has some serious issues.
You are entitled to an opinion. Others are entitled to form an opinion of you based upon what you write – perhaps revealing "serious issues" regards being judgmental of others based upon generalizations, stereotypes, preconceived notions, and narrow thinking. Are any of those characteristic of a "realist" or a wannabe?

In your considered opinion, is an age difference of 13 years 11 months acceptable?

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Men are diluting themselves if they actually think someone that much younger is actually attracted to them for any other purpose than needing a daddy that they never had, or for money.
Perhaps you mean deluding rather than "diluting"?

In either case, that is an interesting viewpoint that says the speaker imagines reasons for attraction between people that s/he does not understand personally OR projects reasons upon others based upon personal values or experiences.

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Why would anyone (male or female) ever want to be in a marriage or relationship that they knew they would have to be a nurse maid to, or widow (for that matter) at such a young age when they could have a life partner?
I would consider that naïve a response rather than realism.

As a person who has been on both sides of the situation, I can attest that the primary reason to associate with someone (regardless of age) in my case has been attraction and appeal. As a young man I was associated with a woman who was considerably older – and a MOST interesting and knowledgeable person. She was certainly NOT a mother-figure – and becoming a "nursemaid" or widower never entered my mind.

When I was sixty, a much younger woman chose me to be her husband. I did not pursue her. We have had a wonderful ten years together. Neither has "taken care of" the other. It was always a relationship of equals. We are now divorced (for reasons very different from age difference) and are best of friends. It is me who is doing the "helping" when needed.

Can anyone be sure that the younger person will not be the one to require care? A favorite uncle of mine married a woman twenty-five or thirty years his junior – and became her caretaker when she developed multiple sclerosis and was confined to a wheelchair. He took wonderful care of her until he died at eighty-five – whereupon she was forced to go to a nursing home.

Why would one make assumptions about people and relationships about which they know NOTHING at all?
- September 1st, 2009, 02:55 pm
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I was one of those younger women, I married a man 18 years older than myself and in 33 years had a little of everything, the good, the bad, the ugly and the beautiful. I think in the end it was harder for him than me, being in poor health after 70 years of being very healthy and strong was hard for him, but a least I was able to provide both the income and health insurance. That is a consideration for women who go into relationships with much older men.
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