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One day I received at least four messages from internet fraud people. They all said they were engineers.

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- June 12th, 2009, 08:35 pm
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AudioDad wrote :
I really hate stereotypes, but the 'stereotypical' view of an engineer is that of a geeky braniac with arrested social skills. That may partially explain why you see a relatively high number of engieers in your matches - they just ain't gettin dates cuz they're geeks.
Bingo! It's us geeky types who tend to pursue that kind of occupation. No coincidence at all, really.
- July 12th, 2009, 08:34 am
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June wrote :
I am a nurse and would love to be matched with an engineer. Actually, I almost chose engineering over nursing but thought it would be difficult to compete in a man's world. I would welcome the thoughtful, reasonable, practical nature of a stereotypical engineer. I welcome logical arguments over emotional arguments. And, I don't think all engineers or nurses work long or odd hours.


My dad was an engineer (retired now)and worked 8 to 5 most days, traveled a fair amount, at times. My mom was a nurse (also retired). They've been married over 50 years successfully. It seems a winning combination.
I am also a nurse and hold a masters of science degree. I agree one hundred percent with the statements above. I have known a few nurses who found love with an engineer and they were very content. Maybe I will find one some day too.
- July 16th, 2009, 01:11 am
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I too have found the number of engineers (male) I have been matched with to be greater than expected but I thought it was because I am an Engineer (female) myself. I would hope that we engineers, collectively, are no more odd than people from other occupations. I would like to believe that we may be more comfortable with the thought of finding someone through technological avenues such as edating than perhaps the average person. Most engineers I know, myself included, tend to like the thought of using technology to make life better and we tend to thrive in such environments. I would also like to believe that it is because we are more interested in real compatibility (i.e. similarities in intellect, interests, etc.) and less superficiality; however, the experiences as related by others would tend to negate this logic.
- July 17th, 2009, 07:41 pm
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I'm a female engineer, graduated from NJIT and work here in NJ for one of the Army locations. I have been matched by 1 man on EH who claimed to be an engineer because he had completed a 2 month course for computer repair that gave him a certificate labeling him as a computer engineer. This was easy to confirm simply by asking him about his college education which he couldn't confirm. Even without this information just by his many spelling and grammatical errors, the way he spoke, heavy jewelery in dressing and erratic behavior, I pretty much knew already that he had not attended college, which he later confirmed. It's awful to say it this way, but its fairer than deleting all of your engineer matches. I've also been matched with the petroleum engineer from Nigeria, Africa, of course if you get this one delete it. He usually starts off in Canada then for some reason travels to Africa, then comes the request for money about 1 month into the communication. This one is more difficult to confirm because he is highly educated and is overseas, so if you hear Africa just report it.
- August 2nd, 2009, 03:42 am
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franci196 wrote :
Even without this information just by his many spelling and grammatical errors... I pretty much knew already that he had not attended college, which he later confirmed.
I've known many people with more formal education than myself whose language skills are atrocious. That in itself proves nothing. What I find hilarious is the number of computer programmers who can write flawless code (a program won't run if it contains even a minor typographical error) but could not construct an English sentence to save their lives. So I have to point out that a college education is not necessarily a strong indicator of intelligence or competence.
- August 2nd, 2009, 01:09 pm
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Keep in mind that eH does not match based on occupation. They match based on answers to the questionnaire. There are no more single engineers, than in any other occupation.

I have been an engineer for a long time, and I used to buy into the stereotypes. But it's not really the occupation that shapes your personality. It's the people that you work with every day, the corporate culture.

Some engineers travel, but most don't. Some are nerdy, but most aren't. Just like in any other line of work. And engineering is a very broad line of work, there are many many different kinds of engineers and there isn't very much that they all have in common. Plus, as has been pointed out, it's a term that gets misused. People can take a 3 month class and pretend to call themselves an engineer.

Most of my matches seem to be in education and health care and law. And I can't really generalize anything from that.

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- August 7th, 2009, 11:28 am
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Another note about the Nigerian Scammer: I saw a TV show on Dateline in late 2007 or early 2008 that covered this popular scam and it was reported to have been traced to a Nigerian attorney. He was said to have made a small fortune from this scam. However there was no mention of him being prosecuted. Perhaps it's not a crime in Nigeria or he's shielded since the victims are in the U.S. The point is that it's not an engineer that is carrying this out. He uses engineering rather than law as his career, perhaps to make it more difficult to be traced back to him.

The first time I was matched with him, he said he was a biomedical engineer. Then when I mentioned that I was completing a Master's in this, he said his Bachelor's was in civil engineering and that his work was related to this instead. On the 2nd match, he claimed to be a petroleum engineer. The point is that both times he was able to google information on these fields and respond eloquently enough to be believable. Obviously the 2nd time I reported him immediately when he traveled to Africa and followed the same patterns.

Another note is that if you place religion as a level of 10 in importance on your preferences, you have a higher chance of being matched with him. Since as was already mentioned above, they look for sympathetic people. The 1st time, I was so sympathetic, that even after I found out he was a scammer, I was worried that perhaps it dealt with an impoverished person in Africa that needed the money for food. I actually had a dialogue with him afterwards and was contemplating sending help, when my sister came across the Dateline TV news reporting on the scam and the amount of money made off of it.

On an upbeat note, the scammer writes beautiful poetry that almost looks custom written. So if you're really bored and love poetry then just play along, save them and print them out.

I do want to prevent this from happening to someone else, hence my long reply with details. Also know that the form of money transfer which he prefers is Money Gram. Just because you place money to be picked up at another Money Gram location in the US, does not prevent it from being picked up at a Money Gram location in Africa. The Money Gram customer support are also very well informed of this scam, luckily for me.

My conclusion to this whole fiasco, is that I'm sure any engineer who is interested in you would be more than happy to purchase RelyID. For only $5.95, it's a small price to pay to prove to your person of interest that you really are who you say you are. They asked me all kinds of questions about my student loan payments, prior addresses, etc. Stuff that only I would know. Scammers might have someone's stolen ID, but that's it, no other information. They wouldn't be able to answer the extent of questions required to get RelyID. Most engineers are logical people, so once you explain to them your fears about this popular scam, I'm sure they'd understand and purchase it.

I'm just wondering how these scammers pay for their membership. If they use credit cards from Nigeria and the scam is so popular, how is it that they can still acquire memberships?
- August 19th, 2009, 08:12 pm
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hi, I am new here. This question just reminds me of the environment the engineers work in. Maybe it is too narrow and with too many men?
- September 15th, 2009, 11:04 pm
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I didn't know there were so many engineers seeking love. I think I would go with those who say, "scammers". Makes sense to me.
- September 24th, 2009, 07:00 pm
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