lucky173 is offline lucky173 Post #21  February 21,2008, 9:05am
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mystikchik - i love the video idea! And although I haven't (and won't! lol) posted myself on you tube I have and would use web-camming as another means of 'showing who I am' as well as seeing who someone else is, if/when communication moves off eharmony.

I think it's another great tool. There's a guy I was matched with on eharmony and in IM we webcam quite often. Although it's not as "real" as face to face, it gives a much better idea than just still photo's do. You get to see a bit better facial expressions, mannerisms, etc.

Sometimes we'll talk on the phone together and keep cams going while we're doing other things. It's fun and really does give a whole other perspective! :-)
 
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I've actually had a couple girls who responded to my photo nudge, then closed me before I could go further into conversation. They were really hot too, so I think they were trying to say "Haha! Look at what you could have had if you weren't such a jerk that you asked to see what I look like"

Despite that I don't start comm without a photo still, because as fwagner said, it sucks to be disappointed in someone's appearance, and to have to close them because of that. I'd rather do it before I get to know the girl at all.
 
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I've actually had a couple girls who responded to my photo nudge, then closed me before I could go further into conversation. They were really hot too, so I think they were trying to say "Haha! Look at what you could have had if you weren't such a jerk that you asked to see what I look like"

Despite that I don't start comm without a photo still, because as fwagner said, it sucks to be disappointed in someone's appearance, and to have to close them because of that. I'd rather do it before I get to know the girl at all.
So abashment when are you going to send me your picture?
 
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Abashment is offline Abashment Post #24  February 21,2008, 2:38pm
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So abashment when are you going to send me your picture?
When you move within 60 miles, show up as one of my matches, and become a paying member.

Or until I feel like it
 
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macroman, wrote :



I have noticed that every person I have start communications with that didnt have a photo posted (3 as of now) were overweight when they revealed themselves. I dont understand why people do this. If someone thinks that a person would too hastily judge them for their looks what do they think will happen when they finally have to reveal this. It seems like it would be more important to start off with all things in the open.
I am not overweight, and I actually look younger than my age (so I am told). I have however run into similar situations where I will be talking to a guy for a bit, we will agree to share pics and bam instant turn-off. (I know...I feel bad for sounding shallow.) But the truth is, if I don't feel an attraction, I am not doing either one of us any good. I've gone that route before of "seeing" if an attraction will develop. Well, to date, that hesn't been the case. I have found that when I post my pic. I get an interesting selection of people who want my attention. I don't consider myself a knockout or anything like thatm but for my age, I think I am doing well.
 
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The answer to all of this is very simple. You can talk about modesty, security or whatever, but the bottom line is unattractive people do not post their photo. Enough said.
Hey, I am not a hunk and still post mine, so there goes your theory, although you have a valid point.
 
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ScottK,62678 wrote :

With that said, if someone requests communication with me, I immediately make my photo available to them after reading their profile if I think we may be compatible. I do not want to waste either my time or theirs if they are not attracted to me. And more times than not they have hung in there with me until the open communication stage. (At that point most men just leave you hanging and stop responding altogether. I will never understand this, why be on a dating site if you won't follow through and only want to answer canned questions?. It's easy enough just to close out!!). No photo's don't bother me, game playing does!
Hi foreversearching,

2comments.

1) You say game playing bothers you. I suspect most guys here would argue that you started playing the "game" as soon as you hid your picture. Hiding your picture *IS* a game. I bet you look at the guy's picture during your first perusal of their profile. How do I know? Its human nature. Can you honestly say you haven't closed a guy out at that first stage because you didn't like how he looked?

Personally I think this game should be stopped by eharmony by simply blocking each party from seeing the other person's picture until it reaches the same threshold for each person. This would stop this unfair game, where I show my picture right away, but my match holds it back till much later. For example, if you set your threshold to show you picture at Stage 4, *all* matches delivered to you would not have pictures shown till that same Stage.

2) If you withhold the picture until Open Communication, you should expect guys to disappear at that point. I am usually willing to play along with matches that hold their picture back, I figure what the heck... The problem is when the picture is finally revealed, its always different than what I was expecting, regardless of the weight, height, etc. And therelies the problem. By hiding the picture till later,us guys start to form our own pictures of what we wantyou tolook like based on your answers, andinevitably we are disappointed.Not because of what you look like, but because of what we THOUGHT you should look like based on your answers. This is why you should just show your picture up front so us guys don't have to make up some sort of picture of you.
Not for one moment did it cross my mind that during our open communication the man I was communicating with had created an imaginary person inside his head. And then had nerve enough to nameher, (or him..lol) after me. Maybe …this is a man who I don’t want to meet.
 
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ScottK,62678 wrote :

With that said, if someone requests communication with me, I immediately make my photo available to them after reading their profile if I think we may be compatible. I do not want to waste either my time or theirs if they are not attracted to me. And more times than not they have hung in there with me until the open communication stage. (At that point most men just leave you hanging and stop responding altogether. I will never understand this, why be on a dating site if you won't follow through and only want to answer canned questions?. It's easy enough just to close out!!). No photo's don't bother me, game playing does!
Hi foreversearching,

2comments.

1) You say game playing bothers you. I suspect most guys here would argue that you started playing the "game" as soon as you hid your picture. Hiding your picture *IS* a game. I bet you look at the guy's picture during your first perusal of their profile. How do I know? Its human nature. Can you honestly say you haven't closed a guy out at that first stage because you didn't like how he looked?

Personally I think this game should be stopped by eharmony by simply blocking each party from seeing the other person's picture until it reaches the same threshold for each person. This would stop this unfair game, where I show my picture right away, but my match holds it back till much later. For example, if you set your threshold to show you picture at Stage 4, *all* matches delivered to you would not have pictures shown till that same Stage.

2) If you withhold the picture until Open Communication, you should expect guys to disappear at that point. I am usually willing to play along with matches that hold their picture back, I figure what the heck... The problem is when the picture is finally revealed, its always different than what I was expecting, regardless of the weight, height, etc. And therelies the problem. By hiding the picture till later,us guys start to form our own pictures of what we wantyou tolook like based on your answers, andinevitably we are disappointed.Not because of what you look like, but because of what we THOUGHT you should look like based on your answers. This is why you should just show your picture up front so us guys don't have to make up some sort of picture of you.
When eharmony first started they revealed photos only in the open communication section. It took awhile to get to the photo. They changed after considerable nudging from their customers to reveal the photos up front as an option. This is America and we all know that in America the customer rules. Many things have changed at eharmony over the years - all customer driven. So now the site is just a reflection of the meat market society we live in. I have taken breaks for a year or two at different times and come back to see if things have changed and they haven't.

The profiles are all the same. They all say the same things. They are all wonder, charming, sensitive guys who are seeking relationships with substance in which they are always the unselfish giver. So if they are all so wonderful, why are they all single? I suppose the womans profiles are the same to the men. All the other dating sites give basically the same information as eharmony for far less money. For the most part, the men I have been matched with have been very off base as to what interests me. So much for the science.

Christian men do not treat their sisters in Christ any different than men in the world do. They are looking to be visually stimulated (pornography) by the photo they see and hide themselves for a period of time before they have to come out and be real by the time they get to open communication. How is lovingyour sister accomplished when you can dispose of her with one click of the "CLOSE" button.

I have learned a lot about participating in my culture from being here on eharmony. When my membership runs out I won't be back no matter how wholesome or pure Christian leaders make it sound. Maybe we should be letting God do the matching.
 
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Gabrie3653 - very true, sometimes unattractive people don't post their photo, then again sometimes they DO! Not to be harsh, but, I've gotten a few photos that made me cringe, literally! And although I know what I like to look at, I am by NO means picky about the guy needing to look like he's stepped off the pages of a magazine. Attractive comes in many forms. I've also been pleasantly surprised by photos I've gotten that were initially hidden.

5usan, again another across the board comment. There are plenty of confident people, myself included, that don't have their photo out there all the time, for all to see. The fact that I choose instead to share my photo once I, or someone else requests communication rather than prior doesn't have anythign to do with my confidence.

One guy I was matched with here, had a ton of photos posted. We got through open comm. and continued communicating outside eharmony. I came to learn that he had ZERO self-confidence, and that was quite a turn-off.

So.. I think posting a pic or not posting a pic isn't necessary an immediate indication, in ALL instances, that a person is either A) Unattractive or B) not very self-confident. It all goes both ways.

In re: to the must have's of being attractive by today's standards. I always just ask them about that first chance I get, even if it's slipping the q in with another q, or one of my answers. "Today's Standards"?? Does that strike anyone else as being 'Hollywood' like?? While I know I am beautiful and very attractive to a lot fo men, I also know I don't have that "hollywood, movie-star, waltzed out of a magazine' kind of look about me. At teh same time, I figure by then they have seen my picture so obviously if they're still communicating at the point of sending MHCS's they must be interested in what I look like, no?
I got a match who's only pic was of him sitting in the bath tub. The shot was from the chest up.

Common now, what kind ofmessage is this? The first image I have of him is naked and suggestive. I thought this was a huge mistake. It was a turn off. A sense of humor or bad taste? It could go either way I guess, but somehow he didn't pull it off as funny.

I would think it would have been screened or something.

If I had done that you can bet it would have been screened!!!!!! LOL.
 
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I can understand why some people choose not to post their photos but for me if there is no photo posted I immediately close the match. Why you ask? I would rather close the match right away then get through all the steps get a picture and then tell them im not attracted to them according to their photo. To me that is a little too harsh. I post my photo because I don't have anything to hide, I am who I am.
I do the same exact thing! If there are no pictures, I close out the match. At first, I wouldn't, I would go through all of the steps until a picture was revealed. But, like somebody else said above, it's the same for the girls ... as we talk with someone we start to build a picture of them in our head. And it can be disappointing. For a while I tried to place matches on hold stating the reason as no picture. But now, based on the experiences I've had,if there's no photo, I just close it.I feel like they're hiding something. It even crosses my mind that maybe they're married or in a relationship and just don't want their identify truly revealed but are just here 'testing the waters'. And then it works the other way too. Much as I hate to do it, I post my picture, close up and full body. I think I'm reasonably attractive but I know I'm overweight and that's a turn off for many. So I'd rather they just see me up front and then they can choose not to initiate contact or know exactly what I look like if they do. When you go through the guided communication and then reveal your photo at a later stage and are abruptly closed out it's like a slap in the face.
 
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