Nedrob is offline Nedrob Post #1  January 9,2012, 8:23pm
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Hullo again, all,

Sorry for reviving this dead thread, but my profile has so far garnered quite few peeks and at least 2 closures. Would any new blood mind taking a peek and giving me any tips on why I'm so repulsive. I've also uploaded some pics to my forum profile (only 2 of which have made it to my eH profile) and maybe that's what's scaring them away. Suggestions? Thank you!

The one thing I am most passionate about:
The environment, truth and justice - sorry that's three. I believe that people deserve to live fulfilled lives, so I devote myself to principle, integrity, honesty and what I think is right. I accept that I may be wrong, and I change my views when I discover better ones.

The most important thing I am looking for in a person is:
Trust and reliability are very important to me. It is also important than a woman can be calm and rational because that's how I work through issues. I hope to grow with and learn from my partner, divide our burdens and share our joys. I want to make your girlfriends jealous and have them call us "that insufferably cute couple." Matching sweaters, however, are strictly forbidden!

About Me
Basic Information
Occupation: Freelance tech consultant
Age 26
Height 6' 0"(182 cm)
Wants Kids: No
Kids at Home: No
Ethnicity White, non-Hispanic
Religion: Christian
Drinks: Never
Smokes: Never

In my own words
The most influential person in my life has been:
I became good friends with two priests at my old church. Their education, reading and experience guided me when I was a teenager. They helped me broaden my mind, wrestle with big questions, develop my values and remember to take time to appreciate our existence.

The three things which I am most thankful for:
Being healthy with all of my fingers and toes intact
Being able to sleep and go out at night safe and secure
Knowing that I will always be sheltered, clothed and fed

Three of my best life-skills are:
Using humour to make friends laugh
Communicating my innermost thoughts and feelings
Continuing to expand my knowledge and awareness

The things I can't live without are:
My family, who are my strength and my shield
A home, a few hundred square feet to call my own
Chocolate, my only other vice
A good laugh
A suit, so I can still look nice with my 4 things

Some additional information I want you to know:
I asked for introductory massage lessons for Christmas because people always seem to need a back rub and I want to do them properly. I'm also hoping to take up Kung Fu (again) by summer's end.

My interests
I typically spend my leisure time:
I like to dabble in new skills and knowledge including, but not limited to, languages, technology and magic. Also, my interests in classic style have led me to take up jewellery making, knitting and sewing to make what I can't find in stores. I see my mum and sister several times a week and we're very close. I like to dance whenever and wherever, even if I dance like a white guy, and I'm often short a salsa dance partner. However, I also love to stay in to play a good board or video game with friends, watch a movie or cozy up and cuddle.

The last book I read and enjoyed:
I'm currently working through George Orwell's Ninteen Eighty-Four. I like how the story draws importance to many of the luxuries and freedoms which we take for granted. I find the relationships too contrived and makes it too easy to infer that strong government and freedom are mutually exclusive. However, the book is still good kindling for a conversation.

According to my friends:
My friends describe me as:
Funny
Modest
Good Listener
Intelligent
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Very good profile..well written and thought out.....interesting and well rounded.

You may want to rethink /reword the parts about how amazing you are or how everyone who knows you loves you, especially coupled with "despising arrogance".

If you do not to to come off as a conceited snob, then it is best not to write like one.

Confidence and conceit are all in the writing...try not to overdo it....You will do very well...Good Luck..
 
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Nedrob wrote :
Hullo, all,

I've been with eH for a week now and a few women have looked at my profile but not so much as a smile or 'Hi' in my general direction. Is there something off about my profile? Too pedantic? With many thanks for reading

The one thing I am most passionate about: I have concluded from years of experience that people must protect the environment and the resources we have available to us. All people have a responsibility to help others live as fulfilled lives as possible and uphold the truth. Accordingly, I have amazed people with the lengths to which I'll go over matters of principle and standing up to people who believe that they can decide the rules.


The most important thing I am looking for in a person is: I see relationships as a partnership between equals which allows each person to grow off the other, divide the burdens and double the joys. Accordingly, I am looking for someone whose life will compliment mine, and mine hers. This does not mean that we should be identical - far from it - but rather our interests, characters and abilities should allow us to live more happily than if we were alone. This really reads to me as very generic preaching. The last sentence makes you look really bad as you are basically saying that you will blindly fight no matter the cost - that just makes you look stubborn and stupid. I'm certain that's not what you had in mind when you wrote this.

Basic Information

Occupation: Self-employed tech consultant
Age 26
Height 6' 0"(182 cm)
Wants Kids: No
Kids at Home: No
Ethnicity White, non-Hispanic
Religion: Christian
Drinks: Never
Smokes: Never

The most influential person in my life has been:
At the church where I used to go there were two priests. They were my philosophical and intellectual advisors when I was a teenager and I am still good friends with them. They helped me laugh when I was down, gave me comfort when I was scared and guided my attention towards greater awareness and higher understanding.

The three things which I am most thankful for:
  • My health and wellness
  • Safety and security
  • Wealth and material security

Three of my best life-skills are:
  • Using humour to make friends laugh
  • Communicating my innermost thoughts and feelings
  • Managing my finances

The one thing I wish MORE people would notice about me:
People, once they get to know me, love me. It's frustrating when I meet new people and I can't convey how harmless and caring I am. Suggestions appreciated. So the impression you give is that you are dangerous??? Again, this section needs some serious rethinking and rewriting.

The things I can't live without are:
  • My family
  • A home
Complete this section and don't take the question so literally. This is a section where people insert some sense of humor, show some cute quirks they have, like "can't live without my fuzzy slippers" Tongue in cheek works here.
The first thing people notice about me:
Many people say that I was born in the wrong era. Although my views are modern and scientific, my behaviour, sense of humour and style show an old-world reverence to class, sophistication, tradition and wit. People occasionally wrongly develop a first impression that I'm an uptight snob, but I despise arrogance.
Ummm....in this paragraph and overall profile it's exactly how you are coming across.... Food for thought here....
I typically spend my leisure time:
My interests in fashion and style have led me to take up jewellery making, knitting and sewing. I occupy my mind with new information and skills. I love to play games and spend nice quiet evenings at home cozy and cuddling. Sooo you don't have friends you spend time with? Family? Do you go outside of the house? Do you exercise? Do you travel? Do you watch movies? Do you have a favorite band? Really need to expand in this section as knitting and sewing is pretty hard to connect to for just about anyone and this is the section where people are looking to see what they have in common with you and how you both would fit into each others lives.

The last book I read and enjoyed:
I'm currently working through George Orwell's Ninteen Eighty-Four. I like how the story draws importance to many of the luxuries and freedoms which we take for granted. The relationships are contrived and makes it too easy to infer that strong government and freedom are mutually exclusive. However, the book is nevertheless a good basis for conversation.

My friends describe me as:
  • Funny
  • Modest
  • Good Listener
  • Intelligent
My comments above. Please keep in mind that I'm only commenting on how your profile comes across to a stranger and not on you as a person. You have some really good parts and some parts that could really use rewording to get your point across better and more clearly without raising red flags.
 
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I agree with all of the comments above. I will also say that while I think your profile avoids a lot of the pitfalls we tend to come across, it does make it seem like you would be a pretty serious and potentially intellectual person most of the time. This isn't a bad thing, but it doesn't really jive with the fact that you mention you're funny.

If you in fact do have a lighter, more conversational and joking side I'd make sure it comes out somewhere. I'm all about showing as many dimensions of your personality as possible because it gives you more possibilities for someone to latch onto.
 
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Hi Nedrob!

Your profile is very well written, but it was tough to get through...in fact I didn't. It reads like the abstract page for a thesis, not an ad to date you.

I would encourage you to view this as a conversation that you are having with someone. Would you seriously say, "Accordingly, I am looking for someone whose life will compliment mine, and mine hers?"(By the way, it should be complement, not compliment in this context.) Similarly, in conversing with a date, would you really say, "Although my views are modern and scientific, my behaviour, sense of humour and style show an old-world reverence to class, sophistication, tradition and wit. People occasionally wrongly develop a first impression that I'm an uptight snob, but I despise arrogance."

Use your profile to have a conversation with your match. Write as if you are speaking to her. Try to keep it light and playful if you can. As written, your profile was a total turn-off for me, and I like serious, intellectual types.

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Just as I feared. Thanks all for your feedback. Unfortunately, (and if you find my other posts) you'll notice that my writing style is pretty formal - I blame my accounting training.

Unfortunately, my humour is pretty situational and I make observations and play off other people than set up jokes. When I actually try to write humour, it comes across as even *more* pretentious. Anyway, I'll start with relaxing the language (although since I speak a lot like how I write... oh dear!).

emma_hazards, good on you for catching that idiom. Although I'd prefer to go back to when compliment and complement were interchangeable, the differentiation certainly is clearer.

DancingFool, you seem to see in me things that other people do but I don't see myself. Between you, me and the rest of the Internet, I'm afraid I am most of the things you point me out to be: I don't go to concerts, I don't really exercise (except under protest) or travel (broke) and I do put people off.

This profile *does* reflect who I am as a person, based on the responses. I'll do my best to fix the profile, but evidently I'll also need to change who I am to prevent the very feedback I'm getting...

Gimmie a few days to rework and I'll get back to you
 
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Nedrob wrote :
Just as I feared. Thanks all for your feedback. Unfortunately, (and if you find my other posts) you'll notice that my writing style is pretty formal - I blame my accounting training.

Unfortunately, my humour is pretty situational and I make observations and play off other people than set up jokes. When I actually try to write humour, it comes across as even *more* pretentious. Anyway, I'll start with relaxing the language (although since I speak a lot like how I write... oh dear!).

emma_hazards, good on you for catching that idiom. Although I'd prefer to go back to when compliment and complement were interchangeable, the differentiation certainly is clearer.

DancingFool, you seem to see in me things that other people do but I don't see myself. Between you, me and the rest of the Internet, I'm afraid I am most of the things you point me out to be: I don't go to concerts, I don't really exercise (except under protest) or travel (broke) and I do put people off.

This profile *does* reflect who I am as a person, based on the responses. I'll do my best to fix the profile, but evidently I'll also need to change who I am to prevent the very feedback I'm getting...

Gimmie a few days to rework and I'll get back to you
^This post here is perfectly nice and conversational. This means that you can do it and it's not quite as big of a stretch for you as you may think.

If you write in your profile in the same way as above, as if you are responding to a person asking those questions in a conversation with you, you'll do much much better and have no trouble softening the formal language.
 
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I'm attacking my profile question by question. Even though my 'influential people' didn't get critiqued, I made some adjustments. I've also redone my must haves:

The most influential person in my life has been:
At the church where I used to go there were two priests. In addition to being my philosophical and intellectual guides when I was a teenager, they remain my good friends. They help me broaden my perspectives, direct me when I'm confused and remind me not to get caught up in the busyness of life.

The things I can't live without are:
My family, who are my strength and my shield
A home, a few hundred square feet to call my own
Chocolate, my only other vice
A good laugh
A suit, so I can still look nice with my 4 things

Better?
 
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Nedrob wrote :
The one thing I wish MORE people would notice about me:
People, once they get to know me, love me. It's frustrating when I meet new people and I can't convey how harmless and caring I am. Suggestions appreciated.

I typically spend my leisure time:
My interests in fashion and style have led me to take up jewellery making, knitting and sewing. I occupy my mind with new information and skills. I love to play games and spend nice quiet evenings at home cozy and cuddling.
These two sections are probably why many women would not respond. The first one, by saying "I'm harmless" makes it sound like you come across as a serial killer when people first meet you. Also using "frustrating" makes it sound like you get upset easily when people don't warm up to you quickly.

The second section, I don't know, some girls may be into a guy that does these things in his free time, but most wouldn't, especially at your age. I'm 29 and the only guys I know who spend all their free time doing stuff like that are gay. Any way to inject some other less "girly" things into that section? I'm not suggesting you lie or say you do things that you don't do, but in order to get responses, you're going to have to come up with some other things.
 
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eharmonyjc wrote :
The first one, by saying "I'm harmless" makes it sound like you come across as a serial killer when people first meet you.
I probably do for reasons beyond my understanding. Again, the dynamic with women continues to baffle me. I mean, I say I'm harmless because I'm telling the truth, not because 'that's exactly what a psychopath would say' - and God knows I know a few. I mean, when I say I'm 26 people don't go 'you know, that's exactly what a 45-year-old would say...'

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Also using "frustrating" makes it sound like you get upset easily when people don't warm up to you quickly.
Yeah... I do... Actually, I get more upset when they're off-the-bat rude to me but congratulations for correctly inferring that about me

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The second section, I don't know, some girls may be into a guy that does these things in his free time, but most wouldn't, especially at your age. I'm 29 and the only guys I know who spend all their free time doing stuff like that are gay.
Yeah, you're not the first person to suggest that, nor will you be the last. Funny how girls say they wish they could date their gay friend and then when a straight guy comes along who's like their gay friend, they're all 'dude, be less girly.' I was hoping that mentioning my interest in style would de-gay it and evoke thoughts of Saville Row tailors and Tommy Hilfiger, but I guess not.

Anyway, I digress. These are some other things I've thought about shoving in there:

  • I took salsa lessons, but I can't dance well
  • I sometimes dabble in computer programming, but girls will look at that and go NEEERRD
  • I recreationally dabble in magic (not witchcraft), but again, I'm no good at it
  • I'm something of a homebody. Yes, I go out to restaurants and clubs, but they aren't what I consider a 'date'
  • I like opera and orchestra, but given the other criticisms, I suspect girls will go SNOOOOOB
  • I should put in games. I love playing games. But, again, that's not much of a talent, is it?

So, you see, I'm not the get drunk/stoned off your backside, alpha-beta-delta, look-at-me-muscles, beer-and-chicken-wings kind of guy. But, maybe that's the guy I should become?

Furthermore, I'm struggling with the passionate thing. Honestly, I am passionate about matters of principle like I mentioned and, yes, I stubbornly and sometimes stupidly fight them. Evidently, that's unattractive. Should I drop that all and find something else to be passionate about or are there suggestions for how I can reword myself?

I can't thank you all enough for the feedback. It's good to get some honest answers for a change.

Thanks again. Kiss!
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